Overshoot Live: What’s the climate strategy above 1.5°C?

And so what I've heard here is that the toolkit should be expanding, is going to have to get maybe pretty big.

Some of that are things that we maybe have all heard about, like adaptation, what James is talking about.

There might be others that we've not heard about before.

Other panelists, come in, you know, is this something that you have been prosecuting as we've been running around here at London Climate Action Week and saying, look, this toolkit has got to be much bigger now.

It might have to include some of these things.

And if so, what has been the reaction to that?

Most people are kind of thinking about what's the political consequences of us living through the consequences of climate change are expected to be kind of mid-century to end of century today.

And what does that mean in real terms? And I think I don't, I feel like we like to label things and put things into boxes, but really we're just going to have to get through this, right? We're going to have to work out and harness our ingenuity and our collective action to keep ourselves safe and to try and preserve life on this planet as best we can as we experience it now.

And in that aperture, in that wide space, we've got to be curious, we've got to research, we've got to be full of science, but I don't want any kind of ideological kind of thou shalt not thing.

barriers we've put up right now because it's a crisis.

If it's a crisis, then, you know, we have to face into that crisis, but we have to think about the agency that we could have.

And, you know, it's a geoengineered world, right? There is no way that this is like hands off Mother Earth is nonsense.

We have been tinkering with Mother Earth since since the Industrial Revolution and before.

And we have just been, as gods, we've just not been very good at it, in the words of Stuart Brown.

So we had to get good at it, right? We've got to get good at it as a planetary scale, at a nation scale, and a local scale.

And that does mean being open to trying to figure out, we need scientists like James, working out how bad is this? How sensitive is the climate, right? It seems to be more sensitive than we thought.

We have to have just an open deliberation, but that's not, get overly concerned about these boxes of labels we've given things.

We have to cope with this now and we have to cool ourselves down and we have to cool the planet down.

Any thoughts on the rest of the panel here?

Well, when you first asked the question, I thought of using the things we already have here right now as well and adapting them to this reality.

So the first thing that came to mind was using the legal systems that we have and how can we hold countries and companies accountable through different litigation mechanisms.

And we've had the ICJ giving their big advisory opinion on this.

And I know that lots of groups out there are trying to use that as a new narrative in the legal world as well.

And that's just one example.

My point being, Yes, we can think about technologies that will still take time, but we can also do things right now as well to address the realities that we've been facing with the pre-overshoot world.