One World in a New World - Apocalyptic Chats
Oct 4, 2026 · 1 hr 11 min · 13 segments
What if the strongest leadership advantage is not control, strategy, or technology, but the ability to make people feel seen, valued, safe, and capable?In this episode of One World in a New World, Zen…
Mark CrowleyGuest
Zen BenefielHost
And that carries an energy with it that is just phenomenally attractive, as you found out.

You know, it's interesting as I go to the gym every morning and I was coming back from the gym and I was listening to the radio and and today they were talking about this comedian and he he comes out and he does like 45 minutes of comedy, which you would expect it would be all comedy.

At one of his shows two years ago, he pivots and says, hey, we're all community now.

Who would like to share something in their life that's painful that we might be able to all help you with? and so the the fast forward of the story was that his audience are people that are more interested in going to a room full of strangers where they feel like they can speak about things that are painful to them but right because they're anonymous and and the universality of people in pain right so yeah we want people to come and work for 10 hours and treat them you know, in a way that only makes their lives worse.

Like if you, I, you know, one of the things that I didn't realize for a very long time was the power of what I was doing was that people were just so profoundly grateful to me because whatever was going on in their life was a struggle.

Life is hard, right? But coming to work and having somebody that cared about you, that knew who you were, that was interested in you, wanted to advance you, still holding you accountable for high performance, but rewarding you for it, people were like, You realize, I mean, you're unique in our world.

And if they don't do what they're supposed to, I'm going to terrorize them because that's the only way I know how.

And as Lisa Renee said, she goes, people could feel that you cared about them and that's all that mattered.

we're treated in a corporate environment, and I know this to be true because I saw it.

And that carries an energy with it that is just phenomenally attractive, as you found out.

You know, it's interesting as I go to the gym every morning and I was coming back from the gym and I was listening to the radio and and today they were talking about this comedian and he he comes out and he does like 45 minutes of comedy, which you would expect it would be all comedy.

At one of his shows two years ago, he pivots and says, hey, we're all community now.

Who would like to share something in their life that's painful that we might be able to all help you with? and so the the fast forward of the story was that his audience are people that are more interested in going to a room full of strangers where they feel like they can speak about things that are painful to them but right because they're anonymous and and the universality of people in pain right so yeah we want people to come and work for 10 hours and treat them you know, in a way that only makes their lives worse.

Like if you, I, you know, one of the things that I didn't realize for a very long time was the power of what I was doing was that people were just so profoundly grateful to me because whatever was going on in their life was a struggle.

Life is hard, right? But coming to work and having somebody that cared about you, that knew who you were, that was interested in you, wanted to advance you, still holding you accountable for high performance, but rewarding you for it, people were like, You realize, I mean, you're unique in our world.

And if they don't do what they're supposed to, I'm going to terrorize them because that's the only way I know how.

And as Lisa Renee said, she goes, people could feel that you cared about them and that's all that mattered.

we're treated in a corporate environment, and I know this to be true because I saw it.
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