Sep 16, 2026 · 46 min · 10 segments
Panic disorder isn't a flaw in your character—it's your body's alarm system misfiring. In this episode, Dr. Adam Rinde sits down with Dr. Nicole Cain, author of Panic Proof…
Nicole CainGuest
Adam RindeHost
Thanks so much for sharing how, and how personal that is to share that you went through so much and thanks for being vulnerable with us.


And can you explain to people, because that word's thrown around a lot, and what you mean by that?

And the first question was, well, what is panic? And I think there's a lot of myth around the language.


And we'll start with fear, which is a natural biological response to actual danger.

This is Susie gathering berries in the woods and a tiger growls from the bushes.

It's when you feel like there's a tiger in the woods, but you're driving your car down the interstate or you're getting ready for work in the morning.

And then anxiety, that response to feeling like we're in danger, but when we're not truly in danger anymore, exists on a spectrum.

The way the general medical system is, is it kind of throws it into a very big bucket of, well, are you anxious more days than not? Does it get in your way? Are you worried? Is it difficult to control that worry? But oftentimes the body will whisper anxiety.

Thanks so much for sharing how, and how personal that is to share that you went through so much and thanks for being vulnerable with us.


And can you explain to people, because that word's thrown around a lot, and what you mean by that?

And the first question was, well, what is panic? And I think there's a lot of myth around the language.


And we'll start with fear, which is a natural biological response to actual danger.

This is Susie gathering berries in the woods and a tiger growls from the bushes.

It's when you feel like there's a tiger in the woods, but you're driving your car down the interstate or you're getting ready for work in the morning.

And then anxiety, that response to feeling like we're in danger, but when we're not truly in danger anymore, exists on a spectrum.

The way the general medical system is, is it kind of throws it into a very big bucket of, well, are you anxious more days than not? Does it get in your way? Are you worried? Is it difficult to control that worry? But oftentimes the body will whisper anxiety.
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