Jun 29, 2026 · 53 min · 12 segments
In a challenging decade for media, New York Times President and CEO Meredith Kopit Levien and Vox Media CEO Jim Bankoff have bucked trends and found ways to grow their respective organizations…
Jim BankoffGuest
Meredith Kopit LevienGuest
Kara SwisherHost
We're gonna talk about the changing media landscapes, which I think is important to everyone, obviously AI, 'cause you have to, uh, and then rebuilding trust in journalism and where we are with mergers and acquisitions.
Um, Jim, you're selling Vox Media's podcast network, vox.com, and New York Magazine to James Murdoch's Lupa Systems.
Now, I have to disclose, part of it came from ideas I had talking to you about splitting it all.
So talk about why you think splitting the company in the, i- is in the best interest and why this is the correct configuration.
We're proud of our legacy, I think, of the vintage of companies that were funded, you know, fifteen years ago.
I won't rattle them off, but whether it's Eater or whether it's New York Magazine, The Cut, et cetera, we're proud of everything we've built.
But at one point it was about scale, and it was about aggregating scale, and now it's about focus and getting the businesses in the right position to succeed.
And we think we have a lot of growth runway, and we wanna get the podcast business, which we'll talk about, New York Magazine, which we'll talk about, in a position to succeed.
And then the publishing businesses which are merging in with the Penske publishing businesses are gonna have a lot in common.
We're gonna talk about the changing media landscapes, which I think is important to everyone, obviously AI, 'cause you have to, uh, and then rebuilding trust in journalism and where we are with mergers and acquisitions.
Um, Jim, you're selling Vox Media's podcast network, vox.com, and New York Magazine to James Murdoch's Lupa Systems.
Now, I have to disclose, part of it came from ideas I had talking to you about splitting it all.
So talk about why you think splitting the company in the, i- is in the best interest and why this is the correct configuration.
We're proud of our legacy, I think, of the vintage of companies that were funded, you know, fifteen years ago.
I won't rattle them off, but whether it's Eater or whether it's New York Magazine, The Cut, et cetera, we're proud of everything we've built.
But at one point it was about scale, and it was about aggregating scale, and now it's about focus and getting the businesses in the right position to succeed.
And we think we have a lot of growth runway, and we wanna get the podcast business, which we'll talk about, New York Magazine, which we'll talk about, in a position to succeed.
And then the publishing businesses which are merging in with the Penske publishing businesses are gonna have a lot in common.
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Times Vs AI: High Stakes
Meredith outlines stakes of Times’ AI lawsuit
Platforms Irrelevant, Focus on Audience
Jim explains demise of traditional traffic pipelines
Investing Heavily in Journalism
Meredith reveals massive newsroom growth and strategy
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