Peter Kafka

And Henry was very good.

I mean, he's incredibly talented, and we got Peter Kafka, some people who are still very significant journalists today, we got them early on in their careers.

But it took a long time.

I mean, it took years.

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From the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is Channels with Peter Kafka.

That is me.

I'm also chief correspondent at Business Insider.

He also has a lot of money.

And I sort of I laughed audibly when I saw Peter Kafka's tweet, a story about what happens when one of the world's richest men who has a good relationship with Donald Trump wants something.

Spoiler alert.

He gets it.

But if you're Amazon, you're freaking out.

[upbeat music] From the Vox Media podcast network, this is "Channels" with Peter Kafka.

That's me.

I'm also chief correspondent at Business Insider, and today, of course, we're talking about AI.

For now, you're gonna make me smarter about all of this for free.

Thank you, Jason.

Pleasure as always, Peter.

Um, you, you say you're covering AI commerce?

I care deeply about that, right? I'd like our writers to be able to make a living.

From the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is Channels with Peter Kafka.

That's me.

I'm also chief correspondent at Business Insider.

they're getting news from an AI.

Correct.

Correct, right? If I put a story out, if somebody puts a story, you start a new publication, right? Kafka News, right? And you say, this is written by Peter Kafka.

Everyone's like, yeah.

They used to just like this stuff.

From the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is Channels with Peter Kafka.

That is me.

I'm also chief correspondent at Business Insider.

It is not a $200 million business, however.

Peter Kafka at Business Insider said it straight here, and I think he did a very good job of his analysis.

$30 million a year would never be meaningful to OpenAI.

And building a real ad business