Casey Newton

But it looks, it looks really interesting, and, you know, one of the reasons I was thinking of buying it w- besides I heard a lot of good things from people who were there, even, you know, even Casey, who is not a...

Casey Newton, who's not someone who buys things right away, was like, "I'm buying this thing." He must have seen it.

Um, is that I'm tired of my iPhone.

I want something different.

A reporter at Variety magazine wrote a story a few months ago and then Variety published it.

Kevin Roos and Casey Newton, the two people who host the New York Times tech podcast, Hard Fork.

had signed with a Hollywood talent agency on their way out of the Times.

Them going independent was already public.

And then three other outlets ran the same news that day about Kevin Roos.

and his co-host signing that new deal.

I'm blanking on the name, Kevin Roost and Casey Newton, of course.

So both ChatGPT and Claude got their response elsewhere and pretended that they knew what they were talking about.

I totally want that.

In, in 2022, Casey Newton and Karis Wisher and I did something at Manny's in SF, and I said, like, "I know everyone in my generation is gonna be so anti-AI, but I'm gonna be pro-AI because I am, like, rooting for the mortal combat between my Naima AI and, like, United AI." No offense to United, who's never gonna be a sponsor on my podcast, but Karis will-

Yeah, but they're gonna build a really good AI.

They are.

you sound like a crazy person

yeah because even if you just like dispassionately describe the hugging face incident and people can hear kevin ruse on the daily and then also kevin ruse and friend of the pod casey newton um they did a hard fork about it i haven't listened to yet but the daily was very good

i think it's big of you to oh wait you said you didn't listen to it never mind i was gonna say i think it's big of you to listen to casey newton at this stage in the game but

When Casey Newton is on PJ Vogt's podcast, I listen because it's good.

PJ Vogt also did a good podcast on Hug Your Face.

But I'm sure most people listening to this have heard, but just describing the details dispassionately, you sound schizophrenic.

... at Hard Fork.

Um, Casey Newton, obviously.

Thinking about Alex Heath.

Yeah.

They call-

...

they call this gap optical targeting which I'm pretty sure Ukraine is using in the war against Russia.

It's, it's just... it's a, it's a place for you to rest your hands bef- for 30 seconds before you're like, "Do they have any paper towels in this place?"

[laughs] [upbeat music] I'm Kevin Roose tech columnist at the New York Times.

I'm Casey Newton from Platformer.

And this is Hard Fork.

I'm Kevin Roose, the tech columnist at The New York Times.

I'm Casey Newton from Platformer.

And this is Hard Fork.

This week, Meta agrees to a $17 billion settlement over child safety, why they caved, and what it means for social media.

And finally, it's all hands on deck for the final at GPT.

[upbeat music]

Well, Casey, we got some big news just before we started recording today, which is that Meta has settled its big multi-state, uh, lawsuit with all of the attorneys generals.

Attorneys generals?

Like, he's do-- And he does the services beautifully, and he's worth every penny of it.

And both of us benefit, and it's gonna be very hard because a vast, there's not, there's, there's fewer of people like me or a Casey Newton or an Oliver Darcy or, or Jim Acost- There's fewer of those.

But you are gonna have to figure out a ways to attract them 'cause that's where some of your bigger money is.

I mean, there's definitely, there will be, like, if I-- And again, Jeff Goldberg runs the editorial side.

So you can imagine, I mean, he's got a lot of clout in the industry, but when this tweet came out, a ton of people were talking about it, and a lot of companies stemmed from this, and a lot of people are basically using it.

One of the biggest people that are using it is Casey Newton, who built a wiki of more than 1,400 pages seeded with six years of his own newsletter archive, which w- went back to 2020.

So he's like, "Here's my entire newsletter archive for, like, six years.

Build, like, a way to structurally think about all the data and everything in there." A lot of people I've heard about are building these types of tools where it's their own personal database of everything they like or have learned or know or are interested in, in different topics.