On Offense with Kris Goldsmith
May 6, 2026 · 58 min · 21 segments
Former January 6 investigative counsel Tim Heaphy joins Kris Goldsmith for a difficult conversation about whether American democracy still works — and whether it can survive what’s happening now…
As I'm recording this, the Southern Poverty Law Center, or SPLC, has just been indicted for their work infiltrating and reporting on neo-Nazi organizations, one of the most effective counter-extremism organizations in the country, an organization that didn't just work alongside the FBI, it helped train the FBI, and now it's being accused of fraud for doing the exact work that law enforcement has relied on for decades.
That's the whole case, what the Trump administration considers a credible threat to the president's life.
At the same time, the President of the United States, Donald Trump, he just went on 60 Minutes and told Americans that the SPLC funded the Unite the Right neo-Nazi riot in Charlottesville to the tune of millions of dollars as part of a conspiracy to make him look bad during his first administration.
As I'm recording this, the Southern Poverty Law Center, or SPLC, has just been indicted for their work infiltrating and reporting on neo-Nazi organizations, one of the most effective counter-extremism organizations in the country, an organization that didn't just work alongside the FBI, it helped train the FBI, and now it's being accused of fraud for doing the exact work that law enforcement has relied on for decades.
That's the whole case, what the Trump administration considers a credible threat to the president's life.
At the same time, the President of the United States, Donald Trump, he just went on 60 Minutes and told Americans that the SPLC funded the Unite the Right neo-Nazi riot in Charlottesville to the tune of millions of dollars as part of a conspiracy to make him look bad during his first administration.
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