OMMM: Our Museum Mindfulness Meditation
Aug 13, 2026 · 28 min · 10 segments
People have made meaning from the movement of the stars and planets since before recorded history. In this conversation with host Lilit Sadoyan, contemporary astrologer Chani Nicholas explores the…
Chani NicholasGuestLilit SadoyanHostHow about more recently? I mean, I love what you said about the source of illumination from the phone versus [laughs] the sky.
More recently, how has our understanding and relationship to astrology changed?

I mean, our relationship to astrology changes every time there's a technological advancement.


We, we kind of, like, start to add into the astrological paradigm these new planetary bodies.

And then of course, there's, like, a bajillion asteroids that are just flying around out there.

So there's that piece of it where, like, our astrological system has to then start to, like, make room for these other bodies.


And so then astrology can start to spread in a way that it never really had before, depending on, like, what, uh, civilization we're looking at and what time period.

But in the time period where the printing press starts to get going, that's...

You know, astrology had been really quiet for a long time, so then it comes back.

[laughs] And then, you know, we can look at the '60s, and we can look at the ways in which astrology started to, like, again spread like wildfire through musicals and pop culture, and, "Hey, what's your sign?" and that kind of thing.

It's l- a little less related to technology, but still probably through the advent of, like, people buying records and people playing, you know, like, really kind of having a different relationship to music.

And also, like, Linda Goodman's Sun Sign Book and all of that started to, like, really take root in people's, uh, conscious awareness.

And then you look at social media, and social media is, like, you know, astrology just everywhere.
How about more recently? I mean, I love what you said about the source of illumination from the phone versus [laughs] the sky.
More recently, how has our understanding and relationship to astrology changed?

I mean, our relationship to astrology changes every time there's a technological advancement.


We, we kind of, like, start to add into the astrological paradigm these new planetary bodies.

And then of course, there's, like, a bajillion asteroids that are just flying around out there.

So there's that piece of it where, like, our astrological system has to then start to, like, make room for these other bodies.


And so then astrology can start to spread in a way that it never really had before, depending on, like, what, uh, civilization we're looking at and what time period.

But in the time period where the printing press starts to get going, that's...

You know, astrology had been really quiet for a long time, so then it comes back.

[laughs] And then, you know, we can look at the '60s, and we can look at the ways in which astrology started to, like, again spread like wildfire through musicals and pop culture, and, "Hey, what's your sign?" and that kind of thing.

It's l- a little less related to technology, but still probably through the advent of, like, people buying records and people playing, you know, like, really kind of having a different relationship to music.

And also, like, Linda Goodman's Sun Sign Book and all of that started to, like, really take root in people's, uh, conscious awareness.

And then you look at social media, and social media is, like, you know, astrology just everywhere.
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