Aug 24, 2026 · 34 min · 10 segments
Jon Toogood popped in for a chat about his new book Home Again, summing up his life with Shihad and beyond. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jon ToogoodGuest
Jeremy WellsHost
Manaia StewartHost
Yeah, going back to that moment at Athletic Park, the other thing in the book you talk about was you saw the commitment from ACDC about how to be professional.
And that had a huge impact on you and had a huge impact on Tom as well and what you guys were going to be.
Because when I was growing up, you guys were like a – You guys were like a proper professional band and you wanted to be like, you wanted to be an international band.
And that was the great thing about meeting Tom is like, I didn't realize, you know, like not all drummers are that tight.
He was a mean drummer and he's like probably one of the best drummers ever to come out of
and um so i got lucky there but i also got lucky in the fact that he was the son of the new zealand ambassador to japan so he grew up in japan early on and i had this internationalist view because i was a first generation kiwi yeah and with all these british all my family was in london so we were constantly traveling and so when we decided to be a band we weren't thinking let's be the best band in Wellington.
It was just more like, how do we be a band that sounds as big as ACDC? What's that journey? And so we went on that journey.
I mean, a total dreamers, you know, but like it was, we weren't just interested in conquering Wellington.
We wanted to be, And we wanted to know what it felt like to be inside that big sound, you know, like, how do you do that? You know, so you got there.
What was, how did you get there? What was your like, what's the Beatles one? Is it Hamburg where they went and played like a million shows and
And it's like, I mean, Killjoy's a great record, don't get me wrong, I love it, and there's some good songs on Fish Album, but that's when we went, okay, we learnt the craft of songwriting or rock songwriting, and we'd also played enough shows to know how to put on a mean show.
Yeah, going back to that moment at Athletic Park, the other thing in the book you talk about was you saw the commitment from ACDC about how to be professional.
And that had a huge impact on you and had a huge impact on Tom as well and what you guys were going to be.
Because when I was growing up, you guys were like a – You guys were like a proper professional band and you wanted to be like, you wanted to be an international band.
And that was the great thing about meeting Tom is like, I didn't realize, you know, like not all drummers are that tight.
He was a mean drummer and he's like probably one of the best drummers ever to come out of
and um so i got lucky there but i also got lucky in the fact that he was the son of the new zealand ambassador to japan so he grew up in japan early on and i had this internationalist view because i was a first generation kiwi yeah and with all these british all my family was in london so we were constantly traveling and so when we decided to be a band we weren't thinking let's be the best band in Wellington.
It was just more like, how do we be a band that sounds as big as ACDC? What's that journey? And so we went on that journey.
I mean, a total dreamers, you know, but like it was, we weren't just interested in conquering Wellington.
We wanted to be, And we wanted to know what it felt like to be inside that big sound, you know, like, how do you do that? You know, so you got there.
What was, how did you get there? What was your like, what's the Beatles one? Is it Hamburg where they went and played like a million shows and
And it's like, I mean, Killjoy's a great record, don't get me wrong, I love it, and there's some good songs on Fish Album, but that's when we went, okay, we learnt the craft of songwriting or rock songwriting, and we'd also played enough shows to know how to put on a mean show.
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