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Not Dead Yet

Not Dead Yet

Mitch Daniels

Jun 9, 2026 · 1 hr 21 min · 16 segments

Indiana is better than West Virginia, nobody disagrees — except Chris. Ben, Chris, and the former Governor — and reality TV star? — Mitch Daniels talk about higher education, the need to deliver…

Indiana is better than West Virginia, nobody disagrees — except Chris. Ben, Chris, and the former Governor — and reality TV star? — Mitch Daniels talk about higher education, the need to deliver competency for taxpayers, and the looming debt crisis.

Indiana is better than West Virginia, nobody disagrees — except Chris. Ben, Chris, and the former Governor — and reality TV star? — Mitch Daniels talk about higher education, the need to deliver…

Speakers: Mitch DanielsGuestBen SasseHostChris StirewaltHost

Top entities: Indiana×31 Richard Lugar×6 Ben Sasse×20 Purdue University×25 United States×15

Show Opening and Theme0:00 – 0:29

0:00

[upbeat music] Hi, I'm Ben Sass.

Chris StirewaltHost

0:10

And I'm Chris Stirewalt.

0:11

And this is Not Dead Yet.

0:14

We're all dying, but only some of us have been brought face to face with that reality.

Chris StirewaltHost

0:18

However long each of us have to do it, though we all want to live a good life.

0:23

One with meaning, love, and joy.

0:26

And our guests are here to help us do exactly that.

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99%31 mentions
Richard LugarPersonFormer United States Senator
98%6 mentions
Ben SassePersonFormer United States Senator
97%20 mentions
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96%25 mentions
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95%15 mentions
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94%5 mentions
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88%9 mentions
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84%5 mentions
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Pharmaceutical IndustryBusiness > Corporate Leadership
Public ServiceSociety > Civic Engagement
Office of Management and BudgetGovernment > Public Administration
University AdministrationEducation > Higher Education
Community LeadershipSociety > Civic Engagement > Public Service
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Eli LillyBusiness > Corporate Leadership > Pharmaceutical Industry
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Purdue UniversityEducation > Higher Education > University Administration
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Education
Mitch DanielsPolitics > Political Figures
GovernorsPolitics > Political Figures > Mitch Daniels
IndianaPolitics > Political Figures > Mitch Daniels > Governors
Educational ReformEducation > Higher Education > University Administration > Purdue University
Corporate StrategyBusiness > Corporate Leadership > Pharmaceutical Industry > Eli Lilly
Fiscal PolicyGovernment > Public Administration > Office of Management and Budget
Budget ManagementGovernment > Public Administration > Office of Management and Budget > Fiscal Policy
Political InfluenceSociety > Civic Engagement > Public Service > Community Leadership
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Show Opening and Theme0:00 – 0:29

0:00

[upbeat music] Hi, I'm Ben Sass.

Chris StirewaltHost

0:10

And I'm Chris Stirewalt.

0:11

And this is Not Dead Yet.

0:14

We're all dying, but only some of us have been brought face to face with that reality.

Chris StirewaltHost

0:18

However long each of us have to do it, though we all want to live a good life.

0:23

One with meaning, love, and joy.

0:26

And our guests are here to help us do exactly that.