Jun 19, 2026 · 56 min · 13 segments
In this episode of the No Matter What Club podcast, Paulo, Anthony, and Thomas sit down with Chicago Roundup Chair Melissa Young for a conversation that covers a lot of ground — sage advice from…
Melissa YoungGuestPaulo Arranaga-GraysonHostAnthony Arranaga-GraysonHostThomas AllenHost
Yeah, because even when the world is burning, even when the world is falling down, if you can find something to be grateful for, like, I'm going to make it silly.

um but like i i'm always i'm like okay the world is fine i've been through tragedy in 24 like life has happened in 24 years and i every time i'm like oh it's the bottom of the barrel like there is like a moment like just a few years ago where i'm like on the floor of my apartment sobbing and like a friend in programs like what the And

And she's like, yeah, it's gonna fucking hurt, what? And it was just so crazy, but we were together in it.

And like all the people who kept coming back before me, like the sponsor I mentioned who gave me Hocus Pocus, Change Your Focus, He's got 39 years.

My current sponsor is 41 years and they're still here and they're going to meetings and they're crying and they're having feelings and they go out in the world and they're regular ordinary people all because they had all this time to be like, be grateful today.

Like, I'm one of those people that in program, I almost got evicted sober at seven years of recovery because, you know, 2008 happened in the market crash and everybody lost their job.

Yeah, because even when the world is burning, even when the world is falling down, if you can find something to be grateful for, like, I'm going to make it silly.

um but like i i'm always i'm like okay the world is fine i've been through tragedy in 24 like life has happened in 24 years and i every time i'm like oh it's the bottom of the barrel like there is like a moment like just a few years ago where i'm like on the floor of my apartment sobbing and like a friend in programs like what the And

And she's like, yeah, it's gonna fucking hurt, what? And it was just so crazy, but we were together in it.

And like all the people who kept coming back before me, like the sponsor I mentioned who gave me Hocus Pocus, Change Your Focus, He's got 39 years.

My current sponsor is 41 years and they're still here and they're going to meetings and they're crying and they're having feelings and they go out in the world and they're regular ordinary people all because they had all this time to be like, be grateful today.

Like, I'm one of those people that in program, I almost got evicted sober at seven years of recovery because, you know, 2008 happened in the market crash and everybody lost their job.
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