Move Well, Live Well, Perform Well
Jan 21, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 11 segments
In this episode of the **Move Well Live Well Perform Well Podcast**, Simon sits down with **Dr Nick Birch**, Consultant Orthopaedic Surgeon and one of the UK’s leading experts in spinal health…
Nick BirchGuest
Simon GilchristHost
Nick, just to set the scene a little bit, how do you explain Bowen Health to your patients or your clients in fairly simple terms? And what does having a strong bone actually mean?

So, bone health is the totality of the way that your skeleton functions and the things that attach to the skeleton.

And I think the problem that we have developed in this time we've got to has been focusing too much on one thing.

So if you say to somebody, well, you've gone and had a DEXA scan and you've got a T score, which is a certain number, and that then defines what treatment you should have.

And by the way, you can come back and see me again in five years time when you take the treatment, have another test.

So we think about bone strength and that then informs the discussion about bone health.

What makes up bone strength? Well, there are five different groups of things that make up bone health, two of which are mechanical, two of which are effectually dietary, and the third of which is then hormonal.

So Nick, just to backtrack ever so slightly, that's related to the T-score that you mentioned just a second ago.

So we use T-scores for postmenopausal women and for men over the age of 50, and we prefer Z-scores for premenopausal women and men under the age of 50.

So when we're looking at those numbers, that gives us the bone density, but you all will be aware that only about a third of women who have a fertility fracture have osteoporosis.

two-thirds have either osteopenia or normal bone density and the biggest number is actually in those with osteopenia so if that's the case which is frightening stats if you

yeah it is but if that's the case then then hang on a second that means that the density is not particularly good at predicting who's going to fracture and the reason for that is because density is only part of the story the other part of the story needs toughness and and It's a bit like if you have two rods, one made of steel, one made of glass, they weigh the same, they've got the same volume, therefore they'll have the same density.

But if you drop them on a concrete floor, they'll behave quite differently because

Nick, just to set the scene a little bit, how do you explain Bowen Health to your patients or your clients in fairly simple terms? And what does having a strong bone actually mean?

So, bone health is the totality of the way that your skeleton functions and the things that attach to the skeleton.

And I think the problem that we have developed in this time we've got to has been focusing too much on one thing.

So if you say to somebody, well, you've gone and had a DEXA scan and you've got a T score, which is a certain number, and that then defines what treatment you should have.

And by the way, you can come back and see me again in five years time when you take the treatment, have another test.

So we think about bone strength and that then informs the discussion about bone health.

What makes up bone strength? Well, there are five different groups of things that make up bone health, two of which are mechanical, two of which are effectually dietary, and the third of which is then hormonal.

So Nick, just to backtrack ever so slightly, that's related to the T-score that you mentioned just a second ago.

So we use T-scores for postmenopausal women and for men over the age of 50, and we prefer Z-scores for premenopausal women and men under the age of 50.

So when we're looking at those numbers, that gives us the bone density, but you all will be aware that only about a third of women who have a fertility fracture have osteoporosis.

two-thirds have either osteopenia or normal bone density and the biggest number is actually in those with osteopenia so if that's the case which is frightening stats if you

yeah it is but if that's the case then then hang on a second that means that the density is not particularly good at predicting who's going to fracture and the reason for that is because density is only part of the story the other part of the story needs toughness and and It's a bit like if you have two rods, one made of steel, one made of glass, they weigh the same, they've got the same volume, therefore they'll have the same density.

But if you drop them on a concrete floor, they'll behave quite differently because
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