Mosaic Sparks with Lesley George
Oct 21, 2026 · 43 min · 10 segments
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Anne Gollert HillGuestLesley GeorgeHost
... to explain to people that may have people that are in these kind of situations, maybe it's not a cult, but maybe it's a bad relationship, you know, a harmful one or-

so that if you, you cannot tell somebody to leave, 'cause they're not going to.

You cannot tell somebody they're in a cult or their husband is a bad person or whatever.

What you can do is show them consistent love and support so that they know that if they do at some point decide to leave, they'll have a safe place to land, and that's how I was able to do this because I had them.

Do you know that not once did they ever, ever make me wrong for what I did? They were just so happy that I was back.
And let me ask you, from when you went to your parents' anniversary event, had you seen them in 20 years?

... once I got to Clearwater, they were close enough that they could come.

So I got to see them a couple times, but it was, for me, it was really hard because my dad was pretty sick at that, by that time.

And luckily I got to spend the last however many years of his, seven? Five years, I got to spend the last five years of his life with him.

... to explain to people that may have people that are in these kind of situations, maybe it's not a cult, but maybe it's a bad relationship, you know, a harmful one or-

so that if you, you cannot tell somebody to leave, 'cause they're not going to.

You cannot tell somebody they're in a cult or their husband is a bad person or whatever.

What you can do is show them consistent love and support so that they know that if they do at some point decide to leave, they'll have a safe place to land, and that's how I was able to do this because I had them.

Do you know that not once did they ever, ever make me wrong for what I did? They were just so happy that I was back.
And let me ask you, from when you went to your parents' anniversary event, had you seen them in 20 years?

... once I got to Clearwater, they were close enough that they could come.

So I got to see them a couple times, but it was, for me, it was really hard because my dad was pretty sick at that, by that time.

And luckily I got to spend the last however many years of his, seven? Five years, I got to spend the last five years of his life with him.
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