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Well, I am very interested in this, in how AI is being perceived in different places around the world.

And we're all talking about loss of control with AI and the warnings that we've heard from some of the tech pros and Anthropic in particular.

But in China, which is in this incredible race with the United States, particularly egged on by Donald Trump, who wants a no-holds-barred race, China is worried about loss of control from AI, but in a very different way, in that they think that AI could threaten the power and the influence of the Chinese Communist Party.

and also change or influence social norms and behavior.

So they're not worried about it threatening mankind or taking over the workings of a nuclear energy plant, things like that.

They're worried about political issues.

In what way are we just thinking about the very obvious way of AI manipulating narratives and perception and media?

They are worried about cyber attacks on their infrastructure.

And cyber attacks – but the sort of slope of acceleration in AI in China is very different than it is in the United States.

And that goes back to the fact that – The United States in particular has imposed all these export controls on chips and chip-making machinery.

And so for them, it's not an existential threat as it has been in the West.

I mean, Julie, we saw in the BRICS meeting at the beginning of the week last weekend that the gathering in India coincided with the warnings from AI.

Tech Bro is the chief executive saying that effectively there was an existential threat to humanity there.

But the whole point of the BRICS point, the whole point of raising the BRICS meeting was that there was China saying we will provide an alternative to the American AI system, which, you know, does that actually solve everyone's problems? Does that double the problem?

Well, I think this kind of reinforces what Tiro is just saying in the sense that the concerns are there, but they're just different.

And part of the concern for China is that the U.S. is using AI as yet another pathway for keeping China down, for keeping China, quote unquote, in its place and partly by itself.

controlling the exports of the semiconductors, but also by trying to just keep the U.S. development at pace above China's.

And I would say China right now is trying to present themselves as the alternative, and they're pursuing it in very different ways.

Their models are a lot more open source than the U.S.'s are.

They're trying to streamline AI throughout their economy and into like user into usage a lot more quickly and just making it picked up more.

So it's a very different approach.

And it's one that, again, doesn't have the sense of going off the cliff view that the U.S. seems to have.

But I think what will be key moving forward is to what extent the firms on both sides recognize that middle space of risk, the cyber attacks, the hacks, things like that, that are regardless of where one's geopolitics are, that's going to be a reality.

And is there an interest for all firms, wherever they're based, to try and address those?

What are your thoughts on this, Steve? Because I think you wanted to tell us the story about AI causing or being behind a near miss.