419: How smart is a phone ban? A Mind the Kids podcast

Listen to the pod and take this 30 second survey to help us improve https://york.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_5gNKGPMVAHdQS6ahttps://york.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV\_5gNKGPMVAHdQS6a How smart is a phone ban, really? With the UK's under-16s social media ban confirmed for spring 2027 and mobile phones now expected to be banned from every English school day by default, this episode of Mind the Kids tackles one of the biggest parenting and policy debates of our time: what does the evidence actually say about smartphones, social media and children's mental health? Hosts ***Dr. Jane Gilmour*** (Honorary consultant clinical psychologist and child development programme director at UCL) and ***Professor Umar Toseeb*** (Professor of Psychology at the University of York) are joined by ***Professor Lisa Henderson*** from the University of York, author of two Child and Adolescent Mental Health Journal papers: "Digital Safeguarding Incidents in Schools With and Without Smartphone Policies" and "Innovations in Practice: A Pilot Randomised Trial on Smartphone and Social Media Abstinence." In this episode we unpack: – What the UK's social media ban for under-16s actually means for platforms like TikTok, Instagram, YouTube and Snapchat – Why comparing the UK ban to Australia's isn't a fair like-for-like comparison – New pilot RCT data on smartphone and social media abstinence, sleep quality and wellbeing in adolescents – What happens to digital safeguarding incident reporting when schools introduce phone policies – The "lost generation" risk — teens already embedded in social platforms navigating an abrupt policy shift – Why parental phone habits predict children's smartphone use – The "Goldilocks" amount of social media time, and why moderate use isn't the enemy If you work in education, child psychology, safeguarding, or you're a parent trying to make sense of the smartphone ban headlines, this conversation goes well beyond the soundbites. Mind the Kids is brought to you by ACAMH (Association for Child and Adolescent Mental Health), translating the latest child and adolescent mental health research into evidence-based conversation. 🔔 Subscribe for new episodes on child development, adolescent mental health, and the research shaping child psychology practice. Read the JCPP paper ‘Digital safeguarding incidents in schools with and without smartphone policies: a cross-sectional study in England' https://doi.org/10.1111/camh.70079https://doi.org/10.1111/camh.70079 ***Emma Sullivan, Rob Dallison, Pete Montgomery, Lisa Henderson*** First published: 11 March 2026 Get a free CPD/CME certificate for listening to this podcast by registering for a FREE ACAMH Learn account at https://bit.ly/4fF4BBW**https://bit.ly/4fF4BBW** Don't miss our webinar debate 'Regulating Social Media Use in Children and Young People – Are bans justified?' This 1.5-hour online debate brings together leading experts to examine whether age-based social media bans are an appropriate policy response to concerns about children and young people’s mental health. Visit https://www.acamh.org/https://www.acamh.org Facebook and LinkedIn search / ACAMH Instagram https://www.instagram.com/assoc.camhhttps://www.instagram.com/assoc.camh Bluesky https://bsky.app/profile/acamh.bsky.socialhttps://bsky.app/profile/acamh.bsky.social X https://x.com/acamh**https://x.com/acamh**