Apr 23, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 16 segments
Having a healthy romantic relationship is easier said than done. From mixed signals to playing games, ghosting to co-dependence, many of us feel lost at sea when it comes to dating and relationships…
Holly SolemGuestCarré Kwong CallawayGuestUm, I never saw, um, any truthful, healthy relationship growing up ever.
So yeah, that, relationships from the get-go were modeled, like, my understanding of them, um-
Uh, my parents were together in a very, like, intense and passionate way, um, when I was growing up, and there was, like, you know, breaking up and getting back together and, like, separating, getting back together, and then, like, a very messy divorce.
I thought love was just supposed to be painful and toxic, and intense feelings of just, like, "I can't live without you," and then, "I hate you," and, like, just really no middle ground.
I think you're both speaking to the crux of it, which is that we learn what we are modeled, right? And when we don't know different or better, it teaches us to repeat those same patterns oftentimes, unless we choose to break that pattern, right? And I think you're, you're both speaking to, like, lessons learned and having that insight and understanding and ability to see, like, "This wasn't healthy.
Um, I never saw, um, any truthful, healthy relationship growing up ever.
So yeah, that, relationships from the get-go were modeled, like, my understanding of them, um-
Uh, my parents were together in a very, like, intense and passionate way, um, when I was growing up, and there was, like, you know, breaking up and getting back together and, like, separating, getting back together, and then, like, a very messy divorce.
I thought love was just supposed to be painful and toxic, and intense feelings of just, like, "I can't live without you," and then, "I hate you," and, like, just really no middle ground.
I think you're both speaking to the crux of it, which is that we learn what we are modeled, right? And when we don't know different or better, it teaches us to repeat those same patterns oftentimes, unless we choose to break that pattern, right? And I think you're, you're both speaking to, like, lessons learned and having that insight and understanding and ability to see, like, "This wasn't healthy.
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