Tom HaslamPanelist
Tilly HayesHost
Kaz GrantPanelist
Charlotte KinsellaPanelist
So things like we don't really feel like ourselves anymore as a company or a business.

Like you're looking at the competition thinking, oh my gosh, their logo looks better.

Like we need to up our game or something like sometimes they're about to do something big maybe.

I mean, if they're just a startup, then they need something to get kicked off, but a lot of them don't tend to have a lot of budget for it, to be honest, and they think they just need a logo, but they need a lot more than that.

Lots of businesses are different, but those that are going through change and know that they're developing and want to look better i think what i've found is people go for a cheap option first because they haven't got any money and then over time if their business does well then they think oh that looks a bit naff now i need to get it sort of updated a bit and actually take this a bit more seriously sort of thing but you never know there's some businesses out there that do have the budget and they want to do it straight away i'm not saying that they do do better but they've just got a stronger foundation from the start then haven't they

Do you think that sometimes when brands start to take it seriously, they'll come to you at the same time as a web design and have the whole thing done at once? Potentially.

I've built brands where they just needed the visual identity, logo and colour scheme, etc.

We're working on one at the minute called Barrier Depot, actually, which is a great use case where they were just starting from scratch and they needed everything.

the visual identity the web design everything so it's always i've got ron sniffling away in here should we say hello to ron come

on oh he's jumped up this is ron hello ron you're on the pod so i think i'll just keep him here because i think he'll just be more chill um stare everybody out oh we love ron So as I was saying, Barrier Depot just wanted everything.

So things like we don't really feel like ourselves anymore as a company or a business.

Like you're looking at the competition thinking, oh my gosh, their logo looks better.

Like we need to up our game or something like sometimes they're about to do something big maybe.

I mean, if they're just a startup, then they need something to get kicked off, but a lot of them don't tend to have a lot of budget for it, to be honest, and they think they just need a logo, but they need a lot more than that.

Lots of businesses are different, but those that are going through change and know that they're developing and want to look better i think what i've found is people go for a cheap option first because they haven't got any money and then over time if their business does well then they think oh that looks a bit naff now i need to get it sort of updated a bit and actually take this a bit more seriously sort of thing but you never know there's some businesses out there that do have the budget and they want to do it straight away i'm not saying that they do do better but they've just got a stronger foundation from the start then haven't they

Do you think that sometimes when brands start to take it seriously, they'll come to you at the same time as a web design and have the whole thing done at once? Potentially.

I've built brands where they just needed the visual identity, logo and colour scheme, etc.

We're working on one at the minute called Barrier Depot, actually, which is a great use case where they were just starting from scratch and they needed everything.

the visual identity the web design everything so it's always i've got ron sniffling away in here should we say hello to ron come

on oh he's jumped up this is ron hello ron you're on the pod so i think i'll just keep him here because i think he'll just be more chill um stare everybody out oh we love ron So as I was saying, Barrier Depot just wanted everything.
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