Marketing Beyond with Alan B. Hart
Aug 5, 2026 · 39 min · 12 segments
How are the expectations for CMOs evolving? In this episode, Richard Sanderson, Spencer Stuart's marketing, sales & communications officer practice leader, returns to the podcast to discuss how CMOs…
Richard SandersonGuest
Alan HartHost
Well, I... before we get talking about business and, and the C-suite and all things business, I hear you had a, a recent milestone.

Uh, I, I think I woke up the day after and had terrible lower back pain, which [chuckles] I've been trying to shake off.

And then, of course, the, the mailing from AARP arrives almost to the day.

Kudos to whoever the chief marketing officer is over there, but they hit me, I think, literally on my birthday with, "Welcome to your AARP membership." Uh, I don't know what to make of that, but, uh, they, they're doing good work.

Well, I... before we get talking about business and, and the C-suite and all things business, I hear you had a, a recent milestone.

Uh, I, I think I woke up the day after and had terrible lower back pain, which [chuckles] I've been trying to shake off.

And then, of course, the, the mailing from AARP arrives almost to the day.

Kudos to whoever the chief marketing officer is over there, but they hit me, I think, literally on my birthday with, "Welcome to your AARP membership." Uh, I don't know what to make of that, but, uh, they, they're doing good work.
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