Making Awesome - 3D Printing, Inventing, Making, Small Business
Aug 3, 2026 · 1 hr 26 min · 11 segments
Marleen Vogelaar, CEO of @Shapeways and @Thangs3D joins us for a…
Marleen VogelaarGuest
Grant PosnerHost
I really appreciate everybody who stood up, who came to Sacramento one or multiple times, who've put in letters of objection, whatever you've done, contacted lawmakers, et cetera.

But the reason why I went to Sacramento and why I've piped up is because If you look at the community that we have, our makers, there's two sides of this marketplace.

Their livelihood depends on the quality of the designs that they make and that they can sell.

And now their IP, and it's my, within things, I have to protect, even though people sell their IP through things, I have it, you know, we have it on our databases.

I can only release it to somebody who pays for it and I have to guard it otherwise.

I've seen what happened with Shapeways, you know, that this stuff just got deleted by a trustee and what it does to designers is horrible.

And so one, I have to defend the livelihood of designers, but then makers, on the other hand, if you're making something and you're at home printing something, I think that the idea of digital surveillance, which this is, what is this actually about, is just from a philosophical point of view, not okay.

It's the same thing as if I have a sewing machine and somebody's going to say, well, you cannot make a tank top out of it, but you can only sew pants.

And it should not be, you know, it should not be monitored that there are already laws that forbid me from, you know, doing legal things.

So there doesn't need to be a law that then says, OK, well, now we're going to check if you're actually doing this.

I really appreciate everybody who stood up, who came to Sacramento one or multiple times, who've put in letters of objection, whatever you've done, contacted lawmakers, et cetera.

But the reason why I went to Sacramento and why I've piped up is because If you look at the community that we have, our makers, there's two sides of this marketplace.

Their livelihood depends on the quality of the designs that they make and that they can sell.

And now their IP, and it's my, within things, I have to protect, even though people sell their IP through things, I have it, you know, we have it on our databases.

I can only release it to somebody who pays for it and I have to guard it otherwise.

I've seen what happened with Shapeways, you know, that this stuff just got deleted by a trustee and what it does to designers is horrible.

And so one, I have to defend the livelihood of designers, but then makers, on the other hand, if you're making something and you're at home printing something, I think that the idea of digital surveillance, which this is, what is this actually about, is just from a philosophical point of view, not okay.

It's the same thing as if I have a sewing machine and somebody's going to say, well, you cannot make a tank top out of it, but you can only sew pants.

And it should not be, you know, it should not be monitored that there are already laws that forbid me from, you know, doing legal things.

So there doesn't need to be a law that then says, OK, well, now we're going to check if you're actually doing this.
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