Packout at Pipeline with Nick Trawicki

I think that's kind of the whole idea behind Paco from the very beginning was organization.

And just if you look at it kind of with a wider lens, though, you start to see things like... what organization does for you as a contractor out in the field that really cuts down the amount of time that's not productive is that correct yeah i'm not

making any wide assumptions here no a hundred percent it's one of those things that through research you see all the time if someone's organized they're much more efficient day in and day out because you're not searching through everything trying to find this fitting or that fitting or this tool So a huge piece of packout has been just helping really enable people to be more organized day in and day out, where if you know everything is, especially you look at packout rack, which we launched last year, you're able to save up to 15 minutes per job just by having a home for your packout in your van.

Right.

And you're not wasting an hour digging through your van, trying to find

something.

Well, it's such a huge thing to be able to walk into anything.

It could be a van.

It could be your workshop.

It could be, you know, your kitchen, right? You put the knives in this drawer or the spoons in this drawer.

And if they're always there, it's the same thing with packout.

Like you just walk in, you're like, that's where that's at.

Boom.

We're in the drawers, you know, grabbing fittings.

So long as you've been diligent and restocked things, you're fine.

You should have it, but.

Well, I always think of scenarios that might make, that I think that they make the biggest difference or that you find yourself like really scratching your head.

And so I think I've got the perfect one.

When you're working out of somebody else's service vehicle.

So Andy and I do plumbing HVAC kind of work, right? And we have like, we drive like the transit van style setup.

We pull up to a job for service work, for repairs, that kind of thing.

You're in and out of that thing all the time.

Sometimes you're doing maybe a change out and you're there for a couple of days.

When you've got somebody working with you that doesn't normally work out of your vehicle, right? That, if you're that person, that's really frustrating.

Yeah.