Live Second Journey with I Am Second
Sep 1, 2026 · 33 min · 11 segments
Is your faith not real because you still struggle with sin? Hosts Josh and Dani are joined by author, podcast host and pastor Kyle Worley to talk about the freedom that comes from discipleship and…
Josh SpinksHost
Dani GutierrezHost
Yeah, I mean, I think I love that story and I love how you highlighted that your youth leader helped you go on this journey of being even more vulnerable and like understanding how really deep and wide and vast God's love is even in the middle of your story.

I wonder, like, what do you think is a big misconception that I think people have about that journey? Whenever you actually as a youth leader, like taking someone through that journey, like really discipleship and forming someone.
Yeah, I really I think I think I was under the impression that the Christian faith was all about how strong my belief in obedience was.
I really thought that a lot of it, even though I would have been able to say, oh, I was saved by grace, nothing I could have done.
But really, the foundation and the heights of the Christian life is not our faithfulness.
I thought that I had to do a great job of managing a Christian persona when really God's fundamental invitation for the beginning and all the way through the journey and the end of the Christian life is not kind of manufacturing an image of what it means to be a Christian, but receiving a fresh everyday God's never stopping love in Christ.
And a big turning point for me was I had been a Christian for a number of years.
And this really changed the way that I thought about how God's relationship with me.
I really thought that prior to this, God's relationship with me was he'll be really proud of me if I do good things.
The foundation of my life with him is love, but my ongoing relationship with God is really just rooted in my obedience and my faithfulness.

Yeah, I mean, I think I love that story and I love how you highlighted that your youth leader helped you go on this journey of being even more vulnerable and like understanding how really deep and wide and vast God's love is even in the middle of your story.

I wonder, like, what do you think is a big misconception that I think people have about that journey? Whenever you actually as a youth leader, like taking someone through that journey, like really discipleship and forming someone.
Yeah, I really I think I think I was under the impression that the Christian faith was all about how strong my belief in obedience was.
I really thought that a lot of it, even though I would have been able to say, oh, I was saved by grace, nothing I could have done.
But really, the foundation and the heights of the Christian life is not our faithfulness.
I thought that I had to do a great job of managing a Christian persona when really God's fundamental invitation for the beginning and all the way through the journey and the end of the Christian life is not kind of manufacturing an image of what it means to be a Christian, but receiving a fresh everyday God's never stopping love in Christ.
And a big turning point for me was I had been a Christian for a number of years.
And this really changed the way that I thought about how God's relationship with me.
I really thought that prior to this, God's relationship with me was he'll be really proud of me if I do good things.
The foundation of my life with him is love, but my ongoing relationship with God is really just rooted in my obedience and my faithfulness.
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