LIFESAVERS. A Pro-Life Global Podcast
Aug 3, 2026 · 40 min · 12 segments
What happens to the men? It's the question our culture rarely asks.In this episode of LIFESAVERS, Pro-Life Global president Bethany Janzen sits down with award-winning author Greg Mayo, who speaks…
Greg MayoGuest
Bethany JanzenHost
I wanted to make it as accessible in language, concept, and process to as many people as possible.

So tell me about, I thought it was really interesting because you mentioned earlier that there is certain things that the church will say that actually drive men further away.

So the biggest one, the most damaging thing to healing post-abortive men and women is silence.

But the most damaging messages where they talk about the sin, the abomination of abortion, they talk about murder.

When Jesus came across the haughty and proud, he dealt with them a certain kind of way.

But when he came across the broken, the wounded, the cast out, whatever, he approached him with love and with compassion first.

He actually said, you know, he who has no sin be the one to throw the first stone.

and saying, go and say no more, you know? Like, just like very gently, you know? Like that's, yeah, yeah.

I so appreciate you saying that because like, while I absolutely do agree, you know, abortion, it is wrong and it is murder.

That's not what to tell someone who's post-abortive to help them find healing.

We need them to know that there is healing in Jesus and that Jesus is already, because they know deep down.

I wanted to make it as accessible in language, concept, and process to as many people as possible.

So tell me about, I thought it was really interesting because you mentioned earlier that there is certain things that the church will say that actually drive men further away.

So the biggest one, the most damaging thing to healing post-abortive men and women is silence.

But the most damaging messages where they talk about the sin, the abomination of abortion, they talk about murder.

When Jesus came across the haughty and proud, he dealt with them a certain kind of way.

But when he came across the broken, the wounded, the cast out, whatever, he approached him with love and with compassion first.

He actually said, you know, he who has no sin be the one to throw the first stone.

and saying, go and say no more, you know? Like, just like very gently, you know? Like that's, yeah, yeah.

I so appreciate you saying that because like, while I absolutely do agree, you know, abortion, it is wrong and it is murder.

That's not what to tell someone who's post-abortive to help them find healing.

We need them to know that there is healing in Jesus and that Jesus is already, because they know deep down.
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