Jul 1, 2026 · 52 min · 11 segments
In this episode of *Life by Design*, Dr. Robyne sits down with nationally syndicated radio host, former CFL player, and media personality Brad Smith for a thoughtful conversation about growth…
Brad SmithGuestAnd again, that's like extreme ownership, right? Like you're owning your piece, which I think is so remarkable.
And I also just think it gives so much, again, confidence and just maybe even just a wee bit of encouragement for other people when we think about like second careers or we think about, you know, kind of defining or co-creating our future in terms of like, what do we do next? And Again, it's not that we have to like, you know, close that chapter and never look at it again.
And perhaps some of our decisions were like, yeah, I don't really want to go back.
And maybe just because one didn't work out the way we had hoped doesn't mean that precludes us from having a big, bright future and something else.
And to be able to be the top of your field, top of your game in a new discipline, in a new area.
I love that you said that because when you were on my show, I brought you on because of this clip that you had where it's like if you hold an emotion or moment and process it for 90 seconds, it's ironic because in the last month I've been thinking about that a lot.
And, you know, whereas most people would see what I just said about owning my being naive in the past, they would think that is rumination and like digging in and it might cause depression where it's like, No, you know what? I'd like, let it go.
just, I just have to be hyper aware that, uh, and not just me, but everybody out there.
Like if you don't take these opportunities and then when they go by and you're sitting there and you're going, what if that is a way bigger killer than, than not just putting the extra effort in, in the moment.
It was Dr. Ross who introduced this idea on the podcast a wee while ago about what he coined the fear of hope.
And this idea that for many of us, we're actually scared to get our hopes up because we hold hope so dearly.
And he gave the example of like somebody with an addiction who has gone for repeated episodes or times to try and change that behavior.
But they haven't really actually gone all in because the idea if they did go all in, Brad, and it didn't work out, like that would just like absolutely crush them.
They like save just a wee bit in reserve or in the tank because that idea of trying and it not working would absolutely shatter their hope.
And people who have, interestingly from a stats perspective, folks who have the highest degree a fear of hope are actually the people who can hold the most hope.
And again, that's like extreme ownership, right? Like you're owning your piece, which I think is so remarkable.
And I also just think it gives so much, again, confidence and just maybe even just a wee bit of encouragement for other people when we think about like second careers or we think about, you know, kind of defining or co-creating our future in terms of like, what do we do next? And Again, it's not that we have to like, you know, close that chapter and never look at it again.
And perhaps some of our decisions were like, yeah, I don't really want to go back.
And maybe just because one didn't work out the way we had hoped doesn't mean that precludes us from having a big, bright future and something else.
And to be able to be the top of your field, top of your game in a new discipline, in a new area.
I love that you said that because when you were on my show, I brought you on because of this clip that you had where it's like if you hold an emotion or moment and process it for 90 seconds, it's ironic because in the last month I've been thinking about that a lot.
And, you know, whereas most people would see what I just said about owning my being naive in the past, they would think that is rumination and like digging in and it might cause depression where it's like, No, you know what? I'd like, let it go.
just, I just have to be hyper aware that, uh, and not just me, but everybody out there.
Like if you don't take these opportunities and then when they go by and you're sitting there and you're going, what if that is a way bigger killer than, than not just putting the extra effort in, in the moment.
It was Dr. Ross who introduced this idea on the podcast a wee while ago about what he coined the fear of hope.
And this idea that for many of us, we're actually scared to get our hopes up because we hold hope so dearly.
And he gave the example of like somebody with an addiction who has gone for repeated episodes or times to try and change that behavior.
But they haven't really actually gone all in because the idea if they did go all in, Brad, and it didn't work out, like that would just like absolutely crush them.
They like save just a wee bit in reserve or in the tank because that idea of trying and it not working would absolutely shatter their hope.
And people who have, interestingly from a stats perspective, folks who have the highest degree a fear of hope are actually the people who can hold the most hope.
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