Aug 17, 2026 · 40 min · 11 segments
In this Life After 40 Conversations episode, Phillip Lanier, an entrepreneur who built and sold an eight-figure business after growing up in poverty, shares the hard-won perspective that helped him…
Phillip LanierGuest
Philip BlackettHost
And so when you think about midlife in particular, Philip, um, when did you first realize that something had shifted within you?

Um, you know, we've, we're in like our 14th year now of a seven-year bull market right now.

I'm 51, so I remember almost as soon as I turned 40, I, um, started having a sore throat.

And then a, a second week passed by, and I was like, "I need to go see a doctor." Um, so I, I go to an ear, nose, and throat doctor, and I'm like, "Doc, I have, I think I have, like throat cancer or something." And he said, um, "Go back in the room, get in the chair." And he said, "But do you have any idea how many guys that hit 40 come in my office and say the same thing?" [laughs] I said, "No." He said, "I'm gonna look down your throat, and I'm gonna charge you, and I'm gonna tell you that you don't have it." A- and it's so funny.

Um, but that also set off a series of things, um, to where it's... 40 is a psychological number, what I've, what I've found out.

And I'm sure since you've been doing this, you've probably, um, really dove deep into that.

So but there's a number of things, um, and I heard one of your other guests talk about it.

I'm still creative, but not as creative and inventive as I used to be, and I started...

I read a book, um, and it talks about your crystallized intelligence versus your fluid intelligence when you're younger, and it was fascinating to learn about that.

Um, that, that it's actually normal, and a lot of the things that have happened, um, to me are, are just kind of normal.

And it, it kind of goes back to the front porch conversations, 'cause when you sit down with a 70 or 80-year-old, they can say, "That's normal," and we, we're not doing that anymore.

[laughs] So I hate to jump back to that, but so I'm, I'm noticing that there's a lot of things to where we just need a buddy, a friend, a somebody to just say, "Hey, I've been there.

And so when you think about midlife in particular, Philip, um, when did you first realize that something had shifted within you?

Um, you know, we've, we're in like our 14th year now of a seven-year bull market right now.

I'm 51, so I remember almost as soon as I turned 40, I, um, started having a sore throat.

And then a, a second week passed by, and I was like, "I need to go see a doctor." Um, so I, I go to an ear, nose, and throat doctor, and I'm like, "Doc, I have, I think I have, like throat cancer or something." And he said, um, "Go back in the room, get in the chair." And he said, "But do you have any idea how many guys that hit 40 come in my office and say the same thing?" [laughs] I said, "No." He said, "I'm gonna look down your throat, and I'm gonna charge you, and I'm gonna tell you that you don't have it." A- and it's so funny.

Um, but that also set off a series of things, um, to where it's... 40 is a psychological number, what I've, what I've found out.

And I'm sure since you've been doing this, you've probably, um, really dove deep into that.

So but there's a number of things, um, and I heard one of your other guests talk about it.

I'm still creative, but not as creative and inventive as I used to be, and I started...

I read a book, um, and it talks about your crystallized intelligence versus your fluid intelligence when you're younger, and it was fascinating to learn about that.

Um, that, that it's actually normal, and a lot of the things that have happened, um, to me are, are just kind of normal.

And it, it kind of goes back to the front porch conversations, 'cause when you sit down with a 70 or 80-year-old, they can say, "That's normal," and we, we're not doing that anymore.

[laughs] So I hate to jump back to that, but so I'm, I'm noticing that there's a lot of things to where we just need a buddy, a friend, a somebody to just say, "Hey, I've been there.
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