Sep 7, 2026 · 46 min · 10 segments
In this episode, host Timothy Li (CEO, LendAPI) talks with Amr, founder and CEO of Neumetria, about why a three-digit credit score is a fundamentally broken way to represent a person's financial life…
Amr MohammedGuest
Timothy LiHost
I think, you know, just going through the journey of looking at all these different things.

And then when you start building a new system from scratch and you start looking at everything.

So pre-neumatry, I was traveling a lot and I started looking in terms of Once you start traveling and you're seeing the differences in people's relationship with money, the cultural aspect around how do I think about money, and then you have, am I thinking out of abundance? Am I thinking out of scarcity? Because it changes how I look at my finances.

And that got me thinking a lot around, you know, when we're creating a system and we're not taking into consideration a lot of that, how can you understand the difference? So one of the very first thing I started, I was like, okay, the concept of products is easy when I think about this is a banking product.

But when you think about banking or an investment or, or a crypto, they all involve one thing.

What to do with that dollar? Do I put that dollar in my pocket? Do I leave it at home? Do I put it in a safe deposit? Do I exchange it for something that's either appreciating or consumption? Or I'm going to give it to somebody.

I think, you know, just going through the journey of looking at all these different things.

And then when you start building a new system from scratch and you start looking at everything.

So pre-neumatry, I was traveling a lot and I started looking in terms of Once you start traveling and you're seeing the differences in people's relationship with money, the cultural aspect around how do I think about money, and then you have, am I thinking out of abundance? Am I thinking out of scarcity? Because it changes how I look at my finances.

And that got me thinking a lot around, you know, when we're creating a system and we're not taking into consideration a lot of that, how can you understand the difference? So one of the very first thing I started, I was like, okay, the concept of products is easy when I think about this is a banking product.

But when you think about banking or an investment or, or a crypto, they all involve one thing.

What to do with that dollar? Do I put that dollar in my pocket? Do I leave it at home? Do I put it in a safe deposit? Do I exchange it for something that's either appreciating or consumption? Or I'm going to give it to somebody.
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