Legally Speaking with Michael Mulligan
May 28, 2026 · 22 min · 7 segments
A locked gate at a kids’ camp sounds like a small-town nuisance until you trace it back to 1935 and forward to a trial date in 2027. We dig into a Greater Victoria dispute where companies say a…
Michael MulliganGuest
Adam StirlingHost
Uh, and it's a case that involves a dispute between the YMCA, YWCA, uh, in Greater Victoria, uh, and, uh, two companies that, uh, own some property they want to install a, what sounds like a cellphone antenna on.
Uh, and this dispute, uh, i- involves, uh, property, a number of different parcels of property, uh, that, uh, are where Camp Thunderbird is located, right? That- that's where the, uh, Y's, uh, property is.
Uh, and the company that owns this other parcel of land, um, is sort of adjacent to, it sounds like further in from where the road is out there.
Um, and the, uh, Camp Thunderbird, the Y, uh, has installed a, a gate, uh, some time ago, uh, that, uh, controls access to the property.
Um, and they, uh, require, you know, somebody to identify themselves and so on before they can just drive into Camp Thunderbird, uh, and I guess in some way or other, drive into this other piece of property owned by this company.
Now, the reason this is a dispute is all of these things go back a very long time.
Uh, and so this is long and historic, and the, uh, company that owns this other piece of property that's adjacent, uh, to it, and they wanna pass through, uh, the Y's land to get to it, what they're alleging in their claim is that they're claiming that there was a public road at one point that went through there, and that they should be able to go through there, I guess, to put up their cellphone tower.
Um, and they claim that this road was referred to, uh, either by two possible names, either Settlers Road, gives you an idea of maybe the age of it, or the Glantz Lake Road.
But, uh, there's gonna be much more to it in terms of is that a public road? What was the nature of it? Where did that go to? There are all kinds of questions.
Now, the immediate thing being dealt with in this case dealt with two things.
First of all, this has been going on, not only the road issue, but the case for a very long time.
Uh, and in fact, these companies started this claim against the Y back in December of 2010, if you can believe it.
And so they started this action suing the Y, and the Y responded to the civil claim in 2011.
Uh, and then there's this long history of things happening, like, originally it was scheduled for trial, I think originally sometime in, like, 2014, [chuckles] or 2013.
First trial date 2012, and then the companies added Bachos and Sooke as defendants, so the trial got adjourned.
Uh, and then they dropped those two people as defendants, so the trial got adjourned again.
Uh, and it's a case that involves a dispute between the YMCA, YWCA, uh, in Greater Victoria, uh, and, uh, two companies that, uh, own some property they want to install a, what sounds like a cellphone antenna on.
Uh, and this dispute, uh, i- involves, uh, property, a number of different parcels of property, uh, that, uh, are where Camp Thunderbird is located, right? That- that's where the, uh, Y's, uh, property is.
Uh, and the company that owns this other parcel of land, um, is sort of adjacent to, it sounds like further in from where the road is out there.
Um, and the, uh, Camp Thunderbird, the Y, uh, has installed a, a gate, uh, some time ago, uh, that, uh, controls access to the property.
Um, and they, uh, require, you know, somebody to identify themselves and so on before they can just drive into Camp Thunderbird, uh, and I guess in some way or other, drive into this other piece of property owned by this company.
Now, the reason this is a dispute is all of these things go back a very long time.
Uh, and so this is long and historic, and the, uh, company that owns this other piece of property that's adjacent, uh, to it, and they wanna pass through, uh, the Y's land to get to it, what they're alleging in their claim is that they're claiming that there was a public road at one point that went through there, and that they should be able to go through there, I guess, to put up their cellphone tower.
Um, and they claim that this road was referred to, uh, either by two possible names, either Settlers Road, gives you an idea of maybe the age of it, or the Glantz Lake Road.
But, uh, there's gonna be much more to it in terms of is that a public road? What was the nature of it? Where did that go to? There are all kinds of questions.
Now, the immediate thing being dealt with in this case dealt with two things.
First of all, this has been going on, not only the road issue, but the case for a very long time.
Uh, and in fact, these companies started this claim against the Y back in December of 2010, if you can believe it.
And so they started this action suing the Y, and the Y responded to the civil claim in 2011.
Uh, and then there's this long history of things happening, like, originally it was scheduled for trial, I think originally sometime in, like, 2014, [chuckles] or 2013.
First trial date 2012, and then the companies added Bachos and Sooke as defendants, so the trial got adjourned.
Uh, and then they dropped those two people as defendants, so the trial got adjourned again.
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