Billy Bush Spills: The Tape, the Today Show & the Billionaire Who Confronted Him

But that's what's interesting now in that you have your own thing going because...

And I also think in your situation back in 2016, though there was social media and stuff, podcasting and Instagram and TikTok and Reels, people being able to give their opinion was not at the level.

The commenting at the level.

So in some ways, you're like, is our people is it worse or is it better? I actually think it's better because I think there's more voices that have an audience that there you can go back and be like, actually, I disagree.

And then sometimes that's better for your show that you have a more controversial take or whatever.

And then people like, oh, they're just rage baiting or they're just trying to To be controversial, it's like, no, you're able to have a different opinion.

And then people sometimes, you know, only want to listen to the person who shares their opinion on everything.

And there's enough people that you can find.

Like, with podcasting, it's not just, okay, let me decide between CBS Morning Show, Today Show, and Good Morning America.

And, like, that's the choice.

That's what's kind of cool about today in that you – You know, you can't just wake up one day and get a call and your whole fucking world is over with, you know.

I

would have gotten fired for something else at the Today Show.

I never would have made it.

I have too many opinions and too many things I want to, you know, talk about that.

It's so safe.

And now, 10 years later, safer, even safe.

You know, just nobody steps out and says anything wrong.

that is controversial or is too strong a POV at all.

It's milk toast.

And the safer you are, which could mean less compelling, the better.

I mean, do you watch anything on morning network television that says, God, that's so riveting? No.

No,

but I would always call it like, it's coffee funny.

Like when there's someone trying to be funny, but it's like, i've got a coffee cup like i don't know you know it's it was never and when my tv show ended chelsea lately and i was like up for some of these things i was like you know you could have really funny morning daytime tv like you could yeah get really funny people and it's called podcast i mean and you could right and that's what this is this is what you know where i should have done it a long time ago hot topics and you could have a diverse funny group but it could still be light and funny, but it could be actually funny.