Journey Into The Heart Of The Primordial
Sep 28, 2026 · 2 hr 10 min · 15 segments
In this episode Daniel and Michaela discuss the idea that magical practitioners should hold themselves to a higher standard when it comes to making decisions on how to apply their craft in situations…
Michaela Gaffen StoneHost
Daniel Du BoisHost
So today is, is not in response of, but is inspired by the behavior of certain members who at least claim membership of the magical community online.
But some people have been n- diagnosing people's innocence and guilt by their astrological sign.
Doing charts on people they see on social media, and they're hearing in the news and saying, "That person's guilty.
That person's not guilty." And it's not just in the one case that inspired this, it's, it's about other cases.
But the idea is because we're asking you, you're, you know, we're saying you're at a point where you have to make decisions, and you are on the side that's doing...
Or you're in the section that's doing destruction, that maybe be more responsible with your, [laughs] with your magical knowledge acquisition.
I would say, I would say if, if you do magic, you not only do not have a carte blanche to go do whatever you feel like doing, but you actually have a responsibility not to do that.
And, and to be more, um, aware of your choices and choose honestly, right? Like making an assumption of somebody's guilt or innocence, first of all, period, making that assumption is, is not for you to do.
It's not your damn business [laughs] unless you're actually one of the jury or you're the judge, right?
But, um, if you do make that decision and you're making it based on somebody's astrological sign, so you're saying one twelfth of the world's population, more or less, would do this thing.
[laughs] Like, I'm not even in the astrological sign that we were talking about before recording, but, you know, so what? What, what do you mean this particular type is, is gonna be guilty? Wow.
You know, that's maybe a potential is there, but a potential is there for anyone.
Well, and that's what we discussed, right? When we're like, you know, when I said primordial magic goes before, you know, astrology, it goes before feng shui, it goes before divination, it goes before the I Ching.
It goes before all those things because those are tools based on people's study of those forces.
And so whereas, like say, you know, as people like to say, when, uh, Mercury's in retrograde, then all kinds of terrible things happen.
So today is, is not in response of, but is inspired by the behavior of certain members who at least claim membership of the magical community online.
But some people have been n- diagnosing people's innocence and guilt by their astrological sign.
Doing charts on people they see on social media, and they're hearing in the news and saying, "That person's guilty.
That person's not guilty." And it's not just in the one case that inspired this, it's, it's about other cases.
But the idea is because we're asking you, you're, you know, we're saying you're at a point where you have to make decisions, and you are on the side that's doing...
Or you're in the section that's doing destruction, that maybe be more responsible with your, [laughs] with your magical knowledge acquisition.
I would say, I would say if, if you do magic, you not only do not have a carte blanche to go do whatever you feel like doing, but you actually have a responsibility not to do that.
And, and to be more, um, aware of your choices and choose honestly, right? Like making an assumption of somebody's guilt or innocence, first of all, period, making that assumption is, is not for you to do.
It's not your damn business [laughs] unless you're actually one of the jury or you're the judge, right?
But, um, if you do make that decision and you're making it based on somebody's astrological sign, so you're saying one twelfth of the world's population, more or less, would do this thing.
[laughs] Like, I'm not even in the astrological sign that we were talking about before recording, but, you know, so what? What, what do you mean this particular type is, is gonna be guilty? Wow.
You know, that's maybe a potential is there, but a potential is there for anyone.
Well, and that's what we discussed, right? When we're like, you know, when I said primordial magic goes before, you know, astrology, it goes before feng shui, it goes before divination, it goes before the I Ching.
It goes before all those things because those are tools based on people's study of those forces.
And so whereas, like say, you know, as people like to say, when, uh, Mercury's in retrograde, then all kinds of terrible things happen.
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