Jul 20, 2026 · 44 min · 16 segments
David Ellefson and co-host Joshua Toomey welcome guitarist and vocalist Ira Black to the show to discuss his explosive new project, APOCÆLYPSE. Known for his incredible versatility and years as one of…
Ira BlackGuest
Joshua ToomeyHost
David EllefsonHost
... and so, or, or with the AI stuff, though, I can't tell, is it pro-AI or anti-AI? Like, are, where are we at on the, on the, uh, on the pro and con of the, of AI?
AI?Well, uh, look, the song is about artificial intelligence taking over the world, okay?
... you wanna face it or not, I mean, we can all sit here in, in the two to three to five years and speculate, "Oh my God.
You know, excuse the pun there too, 'cause I, you know, do I wanna be controlled? Hell no.
We say the things we wanna say, like, no matter who, you know, what anyone says about it.
You know, there's a little bit al- already of that online, but, uh, you know, I'm not pro-AI, but do I use some AI? Yeah, sure, I use it, 'cause it's a tool to be used there.
But, you know, it is a slippery slope, and I guess we'll see, uh, where it's going.
I think we're kinda lucky, 'cause we're at the age where, you know, we get to see the, the best tail end parts of it in our life, whereas, you know, uh, you know, our kids and the future generations, I, you know, kinda worry about where it's going for them.
'Cause imagine you can't buy food because you said the F word online or something, you know?
... and so, or, or with the AI stuff, though, I can't tell, is it pro-AI or anti-AI? Like, are, where are we at on the, on the, uh, on the pro and con of the, of AI?
AI?Well, uh, look, the song is about artificial intelligence taking over the world, okay?
... you wanna face it or not, I mean, we can all sit here in, in the two to three to five years and speculate, "Oh my God.
You know, excuse the pun there too, 'cause I, you know, do I wanna be controlled? Hell no.
We say the things we wanna say, like, no matter who, you know, what anyone says about it.
You know, there's a little bit al- already of that online, but, uh, you know, I'm not pro-AI, but do I use some AI? Yeah, sure, I use it, 'cause it's a tool to be used there.
But, you know, it is a slippery slope, and I guess we'll see, uh, where it's going.
I think we're kinda lucky, 'cause we're at the age where, you know, we get to see the, the best tail end parts of it in our life, whereas, you know, uh, you know, our kids and the future generations, I, you know, kinda worry about where it's going for them.
'Cause imagine you can't buy food because you said the F word online or something, you know?
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