Jun 12, 2026 · 45 min · 11 segments
This episode was about going deep into managed futures and hedge fund replications but it went far beyond that as we got into the inner motives and decision process of investors, with Andrew Beer from…
George AliferisHostHistorically, a lot of these strategies, many of which have been fantastic for investors, have just been out of the reach of most investors.
And I first started thinking about this idea of how do you get some of these strategies
the portfolios of people? If it benefits a big pension planner or a multi-billion dollar family office, wouldn't it be great
also bring some of those benefits to a broader range of investors? And what do we mean by that? We mean basically anybody who is advising clients on their assets so wealth managers of all different kinds are basically have a very very simple goal of trying to help people to grow their assets as much as you can over time with as little risk as you can take to do that and so if there are strategies out there that can help you to do that you know by all means would it be great if we could find a way to bring those benefits to millions upon millions hundreds of millions of people
And back in the 2000s, the average hedge fund was much better than the average equity, the average bond.
It was a strategy that had made a lot of money during the 1990s and didn't go down during the dot-com bust when everything else got completely crushed.
And then comes out of the dot-com crush, and they've discovered the emerging markets trade and the commodity trade, and they're making money again.
So if you stood there in 2006 or 2007 and you said, how do I build a portfolio that does that, helps my clients over the next 20 years? And again, the way people do that as they look at it, decades of data on different asset classes hedge funds didn't have that much data but the data we had was incredible and and so you know it was it was such a no-brainer to put hedge funds into a portfolio that was starting with stocks and bonds in the 19 uh in in the 2000s And yet the vast majority of it was simply out of the reach of most investors.
So what we ended up doing, so we ended up focusing on an area called hedge fund replication, which is, again, when you come from the hedge fund industry, it's a lot less mysterious than it is from the outside.
Historically, a lot of these strategies, many of which have been fantastic for investors, have just been out of the reach of most investors.
And I first started thinking about this idea of how do you get some of these strategies
the portfolios of people? If it benefits a big pension planner or a multi-billion dollar family office, wouldn't it be great
also bring some of those benefits to a broader range of investors? And what do we mean by that? We mean basically anybody who is advising clients on their assets so wealth managers of all different kinds are basically have a very very simple goal of trying to help people to grow their assets as much as you can over time with as little risk as you can take to do that and so if there are strategies out there that can help you to do that you know by all means would it be great if we could find a way to bring those benefits to millions upon millions hundreds of millions of people
And back in the 2000s, the average hedge fund was much better than the average equity, the average bond.
It was a strategy that had made a lot of money during the 1990s and didn't go down during the dot-com bust when everything else got completely crushed.
And then comes out of the dot-com crush, and they've discovered the emerging markets trade and the commodity trade, and they're making money again.
So if you stood there in 2006 or 2007 and you said, how do I build a portfolio that does that, helps my clients over the next 20 years? And again, the way people do that as they look at it, decades of data on different asset classes hedge funds didn't have that much data but the data we had was incredible and and so you know it was it was such a no-brainer to put hedge funds into a portfolio that was starting with stocks and bonds in the 19 uh in in the 2000s And yet the vast majority of it was simply out of the reach of most investors.
So what we ended up doing, so we ended up focusing on an area called hedge fund replication, which is, again, when you come from the hedge fund industry, it's a lot less mysterious than it is from the outside.
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