Jun 2, 2026 · 44 min · 9 segments
The energy transition conversation focuses on what connects to the grid. Far less attention goes to whether anyone is coordinating what those assets do once connected. AI training runs swing hundreds…
Kay AikenGuestBridget van DorstenHostTell us about the state of grid planning when an operator says, "We don't know how to model what you're doing."

They'll put their own solar cells up, they'll put EV, they'll put storage, and they will, in effect, grid defect.
Welcome back to "The Interchange Recharged." I'm Bridget van Dorsten, and if you've been following along with the show, you've definitely heard us land on the same point more than once, which is the thing that strains a grid isn't simply how much power a new load draws, it's also the swing, the sudden shift from drawing heavily to drawing almost nothing in a fraction of a second, and this is what destabilizes frequency of the grid.
We do see data centers as a really clear example of large loads connecting at the transmission level and putting pressure on the grid in terms of scale and volatility.
But there are also millions of small devices like EVs or rooftop solar that are connecting at the distribution level as well and putting pressure on the grid in a similar way.
They are individually small, but collectively create really unpredictable and localized variability.
And what's missing here is that nobody has built the intelligence layer that manages all of this together.
Today's guest has spent years mapping exactly where that missing layer needs to go.
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Tell us about the state of grid planning when an operator says, "We don't know how to model what you're doing."

They'll put their own solar cells up, they'll put EV, they'll put storage, and they will, in effect, grid defect.
Welcome back to "The Interchange Recharged." I'm Bridget van Dorsten, and if you've been following along with the show, you've definitely heard us land on the same point more than once, which is the thing that strains a grid isn't simply how much power a new load draws, it's also the swing, the sudden shift from drawing heavily to drawing almost nothing in a fraction of a second, and this is what destabilizes frequency of the grid.
We do see data centers as a really clear example of large loads connecting at the transmission level and putting pressure on the grid in terms of scale and volatility.
But there are also millions of small devices like EVs or rooftop solar that are connecting at the distribution level as well and putting pressure on the grid in a similar way.
They are individually small, but collectively create really unpredictable and localized variability.
And what's missing here is that nobody has built the intelligence layer that manages all of this together.
Today's guest has spent years mapping exactly where that missing layer needs to go.