Aug 18, 2026 · 57 min · 14 segments
Mark Victor Hansen got rejected 144 times before Chicken Soup for the Soul became one of the bestselling book series in history. In this episode, Howie Chan sits down with the legendary author…
[laughs] When you, when you hear that, what, what comes to mind? What comes to mind for you?
I think you're saying that because Jack and I got turned down 144 times...
The joke is, on both sides, is that they say, "Why'd you get turned down?" I say, "'Cause of my partner Jack." [laughs] And Jack would say, [laughs] "It's my partner Mark." But the truth is, I'm the one who, I've been selling since I was nine years old, so I am, I'm pretty rejection proof.
Yeah, and you can see why I could say they didn't like Jack, but that's not true.
I do that with tongue in cheek, and you know, people come back to me and say, "Do you really not like Dr. Canfield?" I said, "We lived together for 20-plus years." I mean, we just...
You don't build, uh, sell a half billion books without knowing each other or knowing everything about the families and, and we're f- go to each other's weddings and birthdays and everything, so, and parties.
Yeah, Mark, I mean, I bring that up, obviously the rejection piece, but really it's about continuing asking and you keep going.
[laughs] When you, when you hear that, what, what comes to mind? What comes to mind for you?
I think you're saying that because Jack and I got turned down 144 times...
The joke is, on both sides, is that they say, "Why'd you get turned down?" I say, "'Cause of my partner Jack." [laughs] And Jack would say, [laughs] "It's my partner Mark." But the truth is, I'm the one who, I've been selling since I was nine years old, so I am, I'm pretty rejection proof.
Yeah, and you can see why I could say they didn't like Jack, but that's not true.
I do that with tongue in cheek, and you know, people come back to me and say, "Do you really not like Dr. Canfield?" I said, "We lived together for 20-plus years." I mean, we just...
You don't build, uh, sell a half billion books without knowing each other or knowing everything about the families and, and we're f- go to each other's weddings and birthdays and everything, so, and parties.
Yeah, Mark, I mean, I bring that up, obviously the rejection piece, but really it's about continuing asking and you keep going.
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