Jul 30, 2026 · 1 hr 33 min · 11 segments
Food is one of the ways we show love. So what happens when we find out a machine made it? Food safety expert Ruth Baker joins Tim to unpack the research showing people enjoy the exact same meal less…
Ruth BakerGuest
Tim MillerHost
That's the kind of where I'm kind of pursuing my interests and my curiosity at the moment.

like the when i was thinking about like having a conversation with you today and just the the checklists the the the regulation the the control measures everything all the kind of the systems that are in place to ensure that we have high foods safety standards and hygiene standards that you want to hear about today and but then like there's something about making food for someone else and there's there's like a real intimacy to that yeah like producing and sharing and it brings there's a there's a It brings cultures and families and friends and everyone together.

And so I think the connection where those things rub up against each other is really interesting.

in the service side of it? And so are you focused on the health and safety side, but do you also involve yourself with...

I still do a few enforcement inspections for council and I went to a pub and I was talking to them and they said, are you a chef? And I was like, no, but I talked to a lot of chefs.

Food is, everyone's got to eat, haven't they? You can't, well, it's going to go, you can't not eat, but I suppose with the fat jab and all.

From my experience, and I'm not saying it's typical, when I come along with my paperwork, they hate paperwork.

They're not a fan of the paperwork because if you think about it, you should naturally end up where you're

That's the kind of where I'm kind of pursuing my interests and my curiosity at the moment.

like the when i was thinking about like having a conversation with you today and just the the checklists the the the regulation the the control measures everything all the kind of the systems that are in place to ensure that we have high foods safety standards and hygiene standards that you want to hear about today and but then like there's something about making food for someone else and there's there's like a real intimacy to that yeah like producing and sharing and it brings there's a there's a It brings cultures and families and friends and everyone together.

And so I think the connection where those things rub up against each other is really interesting.

in the service side of it? And so are you focused on the health and safety side, but do you also involve yourself with...

I still do a few enforcement inspections for council and I went to a pub and I was talking to them and they said, are you a chef? And I was like, no, but I talked to a lot of chefs.

Food is, everyone's got to eat, haven't they? You can't, well, it's going to go, you can't not eat, but I suppose with the fat jab and all.

From my experience, and I'm not saying it's typical, when I come along with my paperwork, they hate paperwork.

They're not a fan of the paperwork because if you think about it, you should naturally end up where you're
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