I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin
Jul 27, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min · 11 segments
Less than 10% of reported sexual assaults result in a conviction in Australia. So, what does it actually take to bring a rapist to justice? In part 2 of former police officer and survivor Caroline…
Caroline ClarkGuestGary JubelinHostBefore we start, can I just read out a passage? Uh, it, it's about, about your, your journey, and, uh, I think it'll give us some, uh, talking points.
"Caroline was raped, and in the aftermath of the most violating experience of her life, something unexpected happened.
She traced every pattern, every wound, every moment she had been taught to stay quiet, all the way back to where it began.
And she found her voice, not the performance of it, the real one." Um, again, a lot to unpack there.

I got home, and then I did what I'd always done, which was I'll just keep it inside, I won't tell anyone, through fear of what the repercussions might be.

Now, by day two, the shame was that heavy and insidious, I remember thinking, "Gosh, I can so see how people don't want to be here anymore, to end it."

It was, I can-- It's like, it was almost like a dark cloud had descended, and I wanted it to disappear, and as the days went on, the shame got worse, which also made me understand, is this what people carry? And it's-

I feel like I'd carried it my whole life, and I was ready to h- to, to put it down, to lay it down, and I guess this was an opportunity, but the readiness to go and do that-

... took-- It-- When people say, "Oh, why didn't you report straight away?" It's not as simple as that.

You have to be really ready to sit down and talk through one of the most violating experiences of-

... your sacred body to a stranger and then explain why you didn't fight back.
Before we start, can I just read out a passage? Uh, it, it's about, about your, your journey, and, uh, I think it'll give us some, uh, talking points.
"Caroline was raped, and in the aftermath of the most violating experience of her life, something unexpected happened.
She traced every pattern, every wound, every moment she had been taught to stay quiet, all the way back to where it began.
And she found her voice, not the performance of it, the real one." Um, again, a lot to unpack there.

I got home, and then I did what I'd always done, which was I'll just keep it inside, I won't tell anyone, through fear of what the repercussions might be.

Now, by day two, the shame was that heavy and insidious, I remember thinking, "Gosh, I can so see how people don't want to be here anymore, to end it."

It was, I can-- It's like, it was almost like a dark cloud had descended, and I wanted it to disappear, and as the days went on, the shame got worse, which also made me understand, is this what people carry? And it's-

I feel like I'd carried it my whole life, and I was ready to h- to, to put it down, to lay it down, and I guess this was an opportunity, but the readiness to go and do that-

... took-- It-- When people say, "Oh, why didn't you report straight away?" It's not as simple as that.

You have to be really ready to sit down and talk through one of the most violating experiences of-

... your sacred body to a stranger and then explain why you didn't fight back.
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