Claire TontiGuest
Madeleine Hanger GrummetHost
And so the community and the kind of things that I thought I would have for the second birth, as we know, birth never goes to a plan.

But yeah, yet again, I ended up very isolated and working from home and I became very burnt out.

And I went to see the doctor and a beautiful naturopath who said to me, if you don't stop working the way you're working, if you don't stop trying to smash yourself at the gym to get back to that body that you think that you need to have.

If you don't stop, your body will stop you and you won't be able to be the mum that you want to be for both your kids.

And so with that, I employed some more people in my company to take over some of my roles.

So in that quiet, in that stillness, I started to write songs to try and understand what had happened to that woman at 29, I think.

I began to really feel like I was exploring themes of grief and loss, of love, of identity, of self, of womanhood, of voice in the world and trauma.

And I wrote a song called This Mother Thing and I put it on Instagram, really terrified, thinking no other women would sort of resonate with it.

The chorus was, "'Will you go but also stay? "'Will you grow but also never change?' And that ambivalence of motherhood I now know is really common.

And I now know I'm a creative, but at that time I wouldn't have thought of myself as even an artist or a creative.

But I took this song to a singing teacher who said to me, you're a songwriter.

I just came here because I have a cough from my long COVID and I just need to figure out how to work on my breathing.

And so the community and the kind of things that I thought I would have for the second birth, as we know, birth never goes to a plan.

But yeah, yet again, I ended up very isolated and working from home and I became very burnt out.

And I went to see the doctor and a beautiful naturopath who said to me, if you don't stop working the way you're working, if you don't stop trying to smash yourself at the gym to get back to that body that you think that you need to have.

If you don't stop, your body will stop you and you won't be able to be the mum that you want to be for both your kids.

And so with that, I employed some more people in my company to take over some of my roles.

So in that quiet, in that stillness, I started to write songs to try and understand what had happened to that woman at 29, I think.

I began to really feel like I was exploring themes of grief and loss, of love, of identity, of self, of womanhood, of voice in the world and trauma.

And I wrote a song called This Mother Thing and I put it on Instagram, really terrified, thinking no other women would sort of resonate with it.

The chorus was, "'Will you go but also stay? "'Will you grow but also never change?' And that ambivalence of motherhood I now know is really common.

And I now know I'm a creative, but at that time I wouldn't have thought of myself as even an artist or a creative.

But I took this song to a singing teacher who said to me, you're a songwriter.

I just came here because I have a cough from my long COVID and I just need to figure out how to work on my breathing.
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