Jun 14, 2026 · 54 min · 14 segments
**Season 4, episode 10 is here!** Fleur Hull has spent years working with authors on the hardest part of writing a book (which is everything that happens after you finish it!). She built the Substack…
Fleur HullGuest
David McIlroyHost
So, um, whenever, whenever you started that, uh, what was that like for, for you guys when you ran that? So how did you kind of, dive into that.

What did you learn from doing a podcast that maybe you've been able to take forward now?

I had worked with her in Sydney in a university and a lot of my career was around advising students on career choices and she had set up an entrepreneurship hub for students in the uni we'd worked at in Sydney.

But she was living in Queensland, so sort of around near Brisbane, and I was in Perth and we hopped on the phone together to say we've lost our jobs.

And I said, Kim, let's have this conversation again tomorrow, but let's record it and turn it into a podcast because we're talking about we've lost our jobs like millions of people around the world and, you know, certainly hundreds of thousands around Australia.

Let's... let's yeah turn this into something that might be helpful for people yeah so i just you know did the the good old google you know how do you start a podcast and i think watched a couple of youtube videos and signed up for i can't remember what hosting site site we used but um found a video editor on fiverr sorry a audio editor on fiverr And, yeah, we just launched.

And every week we set aside an hour just to chat and riff on what was happening in our lives, what we'd learned so far from being unemployed during COVID but also from our history.

And I guess it's left me less scared of that as a medium, but I have to say probably with the load of caring for my kids, I just haven't got around to doing audio or video content for my sub stack yet.

So, um, whenever, whenever you started that, uh, what was that like for, for you guys when you ran that? So how did you kind of, dive into that.

What did you learn from doing a podcast that maybe you've been able to take forward now?

I had worked with her in Sydney in a university and a lot of my career was around advising students on career choices and she had set up an entrepreneurship hub for students in the uni we'd worked at in Sydney.

But she was living in Queensland, so sort of around near Brisbane, and I was in Perth and we hopped on the phone together to say we've lost our jobs.

And I said, Kim, let's have this conversation again tomorrow, but let's record it and turn it into a podcast because we're talking about we've lost our jobs like millions of people around the world and, you know, certainly hundreds of thousands around Australia.

Let's... let's yeah turn this into something that might be helpful for people yeah so i just you know did the the good old google you know how do you start a podcast and i think watched a couple of youtube videos and signed up for i can't remember what hosting site site we used but um found a video editor on fiverr sorry a audio editor on fiverr And, yeah, we just launched.

And every week we set aside an hour just to chat and riff on what was happening in our lives, what we'd learned so far from being unemployed during COVID but also from our history.

And I guess it's left me less scared of that as a medium, but I have to say probably with the load of caring for my kids, I just haven't got around to doing audio or video content for my sub stack yet.
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