Sep 25, 2026 · 49 min · 13 segments
What if menopause care didn't have to be a choice between conventional medicine and "natural" medicine? In this episode of **Heads & Tails**, Dr. Kate White and Jay White sit down with **Dr. Suzanne…
One part is that inflexibility in your approach to any human's care is going to lead you down a road of destruction, right?
It's the capacity to say, and now I think we're seeing, mindfulness is tremendously helpful for almost every psychological ailment and health.
Movement of your body, we are seeing that for your gut health, for your bone health, everything.
Things like sauna and things like that are being brought into Western medicine as we're seeing, hey, you know what? Some of these other things can be really helpful for the things that we're doing.
And so botanicals, I think, also are so interesting because not to make it all about me, but I did have one really interesting botanical experience where I was in the, I was in the jungle in Belize and I was, had a horrible back spasm from a really, and Just almost immobilized.
And I ended up going to see this shaman and he gave me upside down and he gave me this stuff called strong back.
And I was looking on the wall and it was a picture of him with this very official looking white man.
And it was I was like, what is this? And he's like, oh, that's when I was working.
And what he was giving me was wild yam, which is a steroid precursor that really did help relax the muscles because steroids are an anti-inflammatory.
So a lot of the medicines that we think of as traditional medicines started out as botanicals, right? So
If you had to say what herbs and botanicals you feel like are your go-to clinically active for more menopausal things, but also for metabolic health, which is an area that I'm super interested in, you know, with the obesity medicine and all that.
And let me just say that that story is so incredible and so illustrative.
The manuscript is due in a couple of weeks and it is on botanical medicine.
One part is that inflexibility in your approach to any human's care is going to lead you down a road of destruction, right?
It's the capacity to say, and now I think we're seeing, mindfulness is tremendously helpful for almost every psychological ailment and health.
Movement of your body, we are seeing that for your gut health, for your bone health, everything.
Things like sauna and things like that are being brought into Western medicine as we're seeing, hey, you know what? Some of these other things can be really helpful for the things that we're doing.
And so botanicals, I think, also are so interesting because not to make it all about me, but I did have one really interesting botanical experience where I was in the, I was in the jungle in Belize and I was, had a horrible back spasm from a really, and Just almost immobilized.
And I ended up going to see this shaman and he gave me upside down and he gave me this stuff called strong back.
And I was looking on the wall and it was a picture of him with this very official looking white man.
And it was I was like, what is this? And he's like, oh, that's when I was working.
And what he was giving me was wild yam, which is a steroid precursor that really did help relax the muscles because steroids are an anti-inflammatory.
So a lot of the medicines that we think of as traditional medicines started out as botanicals, right? So
If you had to say what herbs and botanicals you feel like are your go-to clinically active for more menopausal things, but also for metabolic health, which is an area that I'm super interested in, you know, with the obesity medicine and all that.
And let me just say that that story is so incredible and so illustrative.
The manuscript is due in a couple of weeks and it is on botanical medicine.
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