Sep 22, 2026 · 59 min · 11 segments
**The hardest part isn't always taking the leap. Sometimes it's staying in the unknown long enough to see what you're building.** In this episode of **Harder Than Life**, Kelly Siegel sits down with…
Rachel GarciaGuestKelly SiegelHostI want to really get into the mindset of those two leaps because there, our audience are a lot of business owners, but there's a lot of young people and a lot of people going through the motions and people say, you only live once.
They're not free to do whatever they want and they just go and they do their nine to five.
there is nothing, guys, Heart of the Life Nation, there is nothing in this world that all of a sudden starts flowing to push you.
You're going to see all kinds of... of roadblocks and it's going to feel like God is against you.
What was the moment you knew you were not going back? Where exactly were you? What was on the desk and who said what?

I mean, for starters, like I said, we would bring in the entire banking relationship, the deposits, the merchant services, all this stuff.

And then at the end, oh, I'm sorry, we have your entire relationship, all your deposits, but we don't like your real estate.
I want to really get into the mindset of those two leaps because there, our audience are a lot of business owners, but there's a lot of young people and a lot of people going through the motions and people say, you only live once.
They're not free to do whatever they want and they just go and they do their nine to five.
there is nothing, guys, Heart of the Life Nation, there is nothing in this world that all of a sudden starts flowing to push you.
You're going to see all kinds of... of roadblocks and it's going to feel like God is against you.
What was the moment you knew you were not going back? Where exactly were you? What was on the desk and who said what?

I mean, for starters, like I said, we would bring in the entire banking relationship, the deposits, the merchant services, all this stuff.

And then at the end, oh, I'm sorry, we have your entire relationship, all your deposits, but we don't like your real estate.
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