Mary Cain Book Review with Jocelyn & Jen

And I am, I'm curious of like, especially having been in running like track specifically, which is obviously it's not called, this is not about running, but it is, it is about running.

I mean, that was a sport she did, um, and swimming, but a lot of running and, uh, Can you tell us a little bit about the culture? Did you see the similarities between the culture that you saw in 2004 on the high school track team and Mary's high school track team? No,

not at all.

I mean, I remember last week on the podcast, I was like raving about how awesome my high school coach was and how he just got he got honored and they named the track after him.

And no, it was nothing like nothing like the book.

Although, oh, another previous guest, Catherine Bertine.

I remember she grew up somewhere in upstate New York.

And so and she's also, of course, she's a fellow author and avid reader.

So I also was texting her about this book.

Like, did you read it yet? Aren't you from that area? And it turns out she she went to the same high school, ran for the same running coach.

Similar years? No, no, no.

She's much older.

Did she give you any

tea? Like, did she tell you about what, was it like, was it like how Mary described it?

So Catherine was said she was also the top.

And I don't think she cares if I tell you guys and the whole podcast world.

But she said she was also the top runner there and experienced a very similar thing to like the crazy other parents and stuff.

And she said the coach Mitch was not as creepy.

So this was like, she was sad that he got creepier.

So he was creepy, I guess, and got creepier.

Wow.

That is wild because I think there has to be, I don't know Catherine's exact age, but I would guess almost 20 years between the two of them and that experience there and the culture of the team and the town.

Jen, you grew up doing sports.

What kind of teams were you on? And What was the culture

on those? I was on club swim team as a kid.