Jun 22, 2026 · 42 min · 11 segments
To mark the launch of Gemini 3.5 Flash, Logan Kilpatrick sat down at Gradient Canopy with four of the people who built it: Jeff Dean, Koray Kavukcuoglu, Noam Shazeer, and Oriol Vinyals. They talked…
Jeff DeanGuest
Koray KavukcuogluGuest
Logan KilpatrickHost
Oriol VinyalsGuest
Noam ShazeerGuest
... and been building on some foundation of multimodal, you know, tool use, agentic from, from the get-go, and just kept building the capabilities up.
So today it's exciting to be releasing the Flash version of 3.5. It's a very powerful series, and the focus of this one probably is on agentic coding, and then of course preserving and enhancing the rest of capabilities.
I think everyone feels like this is really the times where coding capabilities and agentic experiences are defining what it means to experience AI, and, like, 3.5 is a huge, huge step there.
Right? And I think everyone is actually experiencing that, and it is being recognized as a, as a, as a very strong model.
These big release moments have in one way g- gotten less exciting because the thing that's, like, most at the top of everybody's mind i- is not even the big release to the public.
It's like, "What am I going to be using tomorrow to do my engineering and my research, and what are my, the, my friends around the, uh, you know, uh, around the office going to be using, uh, you know, for their engineering and research, and, uh, will they be complaining at me? Will they be happy?"
Was that, like, a we hope that this happens, and it's something that we're gonna intentionally work towards, or has it just become, like, obvious over time that, like, we need to do that because the use cases are much more complicated than, like, the initial version of Gemini?
... and been building on some foundation of multimodal, you know, tool use, agentic from, from the get-go, and just kept building the capabilities up.
So today it's exciting to be releasing the Flash version of 3.5. It's a very powerful series, and the focus of this one probably is on agentic coding, and then of course preserving and enhancing the rest of capabilities.
I think everyone feels like this is really the times where coding capabilities and agentic experiences are defining what it means to experience AI, and, like, 3.5 is a huge, huge step there.
Right? And I think everyone is actually experiencing that, and it is being recognized as a, as a, as a very strong model.
These big release moments have in one way g- gotten less exciting because the thing that's, like, most at the top of everybody's mind i- is not even the big release to the public.
It's like, "What am I going to be using tomorrow to do my engineering and my research, and what are my, the, my friends around the, uh, you know, uh, around the office going to be using, uh, you know, for their engineering and research, and, uh, will they be complaining at me? Will they be happy?"
Was that, like, a we hope that this happens, and it's something that we're gonna intentionally work towards, or has it just become, like, obvious over time that, like, we need to do that because the use cases are much more complicated than, like, the initial version of Gemini?
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