C++

And so somebody could have written it back then.

I mean, maybe not with C++11, but maybe with C++07 or whatever it was there before, right? And then so I think that was really, yeah, it was really fascinating.

Again, I'm really glad no one did because otherwise I would have not, you know, had my opportunities.

So it's, in a way, I'm happy about it.

But I think it was really fascinating to see how how fast this thing, what a game changer this architecture was.

Not the screen, actually.

The screen didn't matter, but the SSD together with a good CPU.

And that could have, let's say, Dr. V had been around at the time, history could have turned out very differently of databases.

The reason Claude and all the agentic AI companies are taking off right now is because if you are a person who is not a coder and you're like, I want to be able to do something that does my very, very specific job task, like that game, that game of sort of agentifying your life, of being able to code your own thing is what is interesting.

So if you are going to be in this field if the field is to survive and i think it will i just think that we need to restructure the way that we think of what computer science is the way we think of what game design is the way we think of what ux design is we haven't really cared about somebody knowing c in a long time right like You know, like like like we really haven't.

Right.

And when I was in school, like I mean, same as you.

When we were computer science majors, they literally were like, OK, here's the class.

Fifteen to eleven is the class where you learn C++.

These are useless skills for those things.

Now, what was useful from there is learning about how algorithms work, how problem solving work.

And so somebody could have written it back then.

I mean, maybe not with C++11, but maybe with C++07 or whatever it was there before, right? And then so I think that was really, yeah, it was really fascinating.

Again, I'm really glad no one did because otherwise I would have not, you know, had my opportunities.

So it's, in a way, I'm happy about it.

But I think it was really fascinating to see how how fast this thing, what a game changer this architecture was.

Not the screen, actually.

The screen didn't matter, but the SSD together with a good CPU.

And that could have, let's say, Dr. V had been around at the time, history could have turned out very differently of databases.

They generate one million diverse sample programs per question.

So if you have a question, a competitive programming per question, they're generating one million solutions, half in Python, half in C++.

So machines can do that.

And they randomize the problem tags and the ratings in the prompt, and they use a high sampling temperature.

This test inputs, the semantic equivalence being one way to do that.

Now the reason this clustering is important is it is effectively providing a way for us to select which set of solutions are diverse enough for us to then evaluate to close the loop.

So now what you can do is you can submit only a subset of solutions to the Codeforces platform which is the actual competition platform.

So And that will check the program correctness.

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All right, and today we're talking about the security and privacy benefits of building a parallel internet, which sounds very ambitious.

We're excited to have Barrett Lyon, a founder and CEO of DocsNet, with us.

And, you know, a claim like this I might have passed on, but Barrett founded Prolexic Technologies, one of the first DDoS mitigation networks acquired by Akamai, and went on to found BitGravity, XDN, Defense.net, each of which were also... uh acquired so with with a background like that i'm like yeah we we gotta hear this out we gotta hear what this is all about welcome to the show barrett

hey nice uh nice to be here

The scarier thing.

So I started a project called Dark Flare.

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All right, and today we're talking about the security and privacy benefits of building a parallel internet, which sounds very ambitious.

We're excited to have Barrett Lyon, a founder and CEO of DocsNet, with us.

And, you know, a claim like this I might have passed on, but Barrett founded Prolexic Technologies, one of the first DDoS mitigation networks acquired by Akamai, and went on to found BitGravity, XDN, Defense.net, each of which were also... uh acquired so with with a background like that i'm like yeah we we gotta hear this out we gotta hear what this is all about welcome to the show barrett

hey nice uh nice to be here

And the idea was, can I SSH through VPNs? through cloudflare and embedding all of the ssh encryption and like to jpegs and stuff like that so on the other side there's an origin server which actually reassembles all the all the jpegs and css files actually look like wordpress and then it would reassemble it and you get the ability to ssh through cloudflare which the idea was cloudflare's kind of too big to shut down in certain countries and in certain conditions.

So it gives you an avenue to communicate to the world, even if the internet's been kind of cut off.

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All right, and today we're talking about the security and privacy benefits of building a parallel internet, which sounds very ambitious.

We're excited to have Barrett Lyon, a founder and CEO of DocsNet, with us.

And, you know, a claim like this I might have passed on, but Barrett founded Prolexic Technologies, one of the first DDoS mitigation networks acquired by Akamai, and went on to found BitGravity, XDN, Defense.net, each of which were also... uh acquired so with with a background like that i'm like yeah we we gotta hear this out we gotta hear what this is all about welcome to the show barrett

hey nice uh nice to be here

And the idea was, can I SSH through VPNs? through cloudflare and embedding all of the ssh encryption and like to jpegs and stuff like that so on the other side there's an origin server which actually reassembles all the all the jpegs and css files actually look like wordpress and then it would reassemble it and you get the ability to ssh through cloudflare which the idea was cloudflare's kind of too big to shut down in certain countries and in certain conditions.

So it gives you an avenue to communicate to the world, even if the internet's been kind of cut off.

And we've tested the audio, so we should be fine.

Mad Scientist Guitar Lab says, I have applications that I wrote 20 plus years ago in C that I would like to resurrect from binaries rather than rewrite.

Again, that's right in the AI toolbox.

Yeah, especially older stuff because it's such a simpler surface to decompile against.

that's an

interesting thing.

Citizens Community has a nice one here too.

What about reverse engineering drivers for hardware that you own? You're kind of doing some of that, aren't you, for your old PDP stuff?