Right? And I think everyone is actually experiencing that, and it is being recognized as a, as a, as a very strong model.

These big release moments have in one way g- gotten less exciting because the thing that's, like, most at the top of everybody's mind i- is not even the big release to the public.

It's like, "What am I going to be using tomorrow to do my engineering and my research, and what are my, the, my friends around the, uh, you know, uh, around the office going to be using, uh, you know, for their engineering and research, and, uh, will they be complaining at me? Will they be happy?"

So yeah, which was great.

I mean, I, I remember, I remember j- for joining and everyone got a mentor to, like, ask questions, like, as a, a new hire 'cause there are, like, a million things you don't know.

And, uh, I would ask my mentor, and every time my mentor would, like, know the answer and, you know, it, uh, it was like, wow, uh, everyone knows everything here.

And it turns out that Jeff was my mentor, and it was just that Jeff knows everything.

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