Aug 20, 2026 · 40 min · 10 segments
Welcome to The Grind — a new series here on Get Messy. Nobody tells you what the middle looks like: the slow seasons, the unglamorous work, and the years it actually takes to build something that…
Deb FosterGuest
Maddie McGuireHost
like i think about first of all just on a practical level the basics of how to do things because it was quite embarrassing sometimes like i did some casting director workshops in New York and like, we just have a different resume system in New Zealand and it's called a CV.

Nobody told me, and it was kind of humiliating because I would stand up at the casting director workshop and they'd be like, this is not

It's nice when actors are ahead of the game at an earlier age, however they can be.

I just feel so happy for people when I see them being so ahead of where I was, you know, because that's like half the battle is just like having all your stuff together.

But like the other thing on a deeper level and it's kind of what we said before is like it's going to be a journey.

But like it's not going to happen right now because you have to like have all this life experience before you become like the right person to be able to handle these jobs.

Don't try to make it happen right now because when you're stressing all the time about like I want it now all you're doing is throwing yourself out of the flow and out of being in the zone because you're too busy stressing about making it happen so yeah

and like craving that result or craving that one yes and like you said then kind of you're so stressed you're not even present and aligned with like the opportunity that is right in front of you you're kind of future tripping or and it's so hard when you're that young but that is such good advice being able to look back

In your current season of your career, Deb, what is your biggest mindset challenge and how do you combat the mindset

like i think about first of all just on a practical level the basics of how to do things because it was quite embarrassing sometimes like i did some casting director workshops in New York and like, we just have a different resume system in New Zealand and it's called a CV.

Nobody told me, and it was kind of humiliating because I would stand up at the casting director workshop and they'd be like, this is not

It's nice when actors are ahead of the game at an earlier age, however they can be.

I just feel so happy for people when I see them being so ahead of where I was, you know, because that's like half the battle is just like having all your stuff together.

But like the other thing on a deeper level and it's kind of what we said before is like it's going to be a journey.

But like it's not going to happen right now because you have to like have all this life experience before you become like the right person to be able to handle these jobs.

Don't try to make it happen right now because when you're stressing all the time about like I want it now all you're doing is throwing yourself out of the flow and out of being in the zone because you're too busy stressing about making it happen so yeah

and like craving that result or craving that one yes and like you said then kind of you're so stressed you're not even present and aligned with like the opportunity that is right in front of you you're kind of future tripping or and it's so hard when you're that young but that is such good advice being able to look back

In your current season of your career, Deb, what is your biggest mindset challenge and how do you combat the mindset
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