Melina Palmer 6 year anniversary of Fraudish!!!

yeah.Um, you, y- uh, you guys, I've listened to so many of Melina's episodes, and then again, we were in this kind of group online when she first kind of started out, and I don't even remember how I found you initially.

But, um, yeah.

So, uh, you had, um... well, you had a couple people on that I've listened to recently that I really enjoyed, and I think this audience is gonna get a lot out of it.

Um, first off is Matt Abrahams and his, um, Think Smart, and I don't have the r- oh, Think Fast or Talk Smarter.

And now I've become a, a, a groupie of his.

Yeah.

Yes.

He's-

'Cause it's so important.

Mm-hmm.

He's really awesome.

So he's a professor at Stanford.

Um, he also has a, a podcast that's called Think Fast, Talk Smart, and then the book they changed a little bit to be Think Faster, Talk Smarter.

Um, but really one of my favorite things from that is he's talking about how he had these overachieving, very accomplished students that would come in, and then you put them on the spot in an interview or something and they freeze and are terrible and can't give responses to things, and it's just really, really difficult in that, um, when you feel like there's stuff on the line, how do you answer when it matters, like being up in the room in a meeting or doing a job interview or whatever it happens to be.

And so being able to practice and having advice there so that you can think faster in the moment so you talk smarter.

I think that's such a funny way to phrase it too.

I love how it's like, "I'm gonna talk smarter." It sounds so silly.

[laughs] Um, you know, but being able to, yeah, rehearse and, um, actually know that committing to saying one thing is better than all the stuff that's... you're thinking about the perfect thing, right? It's gonna be much better, um, and you can always have another conversation later, right? There's another opportunity if you can just get through this one.

Yeah.

Well, and you know, the interesting th- thing about, you know, fraudsters is, um, they're good communicators.

Mm-hmm, very good at talking, uh, fast and sounding smart.

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Yes, yes.

Yeah.

Absolutely.