Episode 394: Life, Joy, and Meaning in Uncertain Times with Marisa Renee Lee

In these-

... very salient

... unprecedented, now precedented times [laughs]

Mm-hmm

... everything's unprecedented until it becomes precedented.

It's precedented [laughs].

Yes, exactly.

Now we just live in chaos.

It's so true.

So true.

But speaking of living in chaos-

Oh, good segue [laughs]

... how is your decluttering project going?

Okay, I have a big update.

Okay.

Um, let me set this up for you.

So on Sunday, I took Henry to Kidspace, which is the children's museum here in LA.

Mm-hmm.

And Matt didn't come with us, and he was like, "Oh, what am I gonna do while you guys are gone?" I was like, "Well, you could get started on the hallway closet." And he's like, "Yeah, okay, I'll do that." The hall- let me just...

Like, the hallway closet is one of those, like, sliding door, like-

Mm-hmm

... reach-in closets.

Mm-hmm.

And it had literally just become a repository of randomness and s- like, stacks of things.

Like, you could barely even...