Aug 14, 2026 · 41 min · 10 segments
In partnership with Club Oenologique - the world through the lens of wine and spirits. David’s guests are JC and Carolyn Martin, a dynamic double act, both scions of winemaking families, who fell in…
Carolyn MartinGuest
JC MartinGuest
David KermodeHost
So most probably when you experience South Africa, if not having a huge background into the whole wine industry, you wouldn't expect to find on the southern tip of Africa a sort of cool climate wine region.

And when I came the first time in 2006 to work as an internship at Glencarlu and then later on had the chance to travel a little bit through the to the country to see the different wine regions.

Obviously, I had a chance at that stage to also coming along to the coastlines into the Walker Bay.

So we could just see the first estates in the in the Hamilton who was Hamill Russell and Busch of Finlayson.

So it was very exciting to see that it was out of climatic circumstances, a completely wine world compared to Stellenbosch, Pahl, Franschhock, the places I worked.

And me coming from a more cool climate background in Switzerland, definitely quite hooked into Pinot Noir and wines with acid and freshness.

Now, the other thing, what is also obviously a point of excitement is in wine term context, everything is long term.

And when you really want to establish yourself a project from scratch, you sort of cannot start too late in your life and what really played sort of in our hands was that we had a chance to establish a new estate in relative young age that we still should see a big part of the benefit in our own generation and to go from a blank sheet it does really excite I mean we we really had a sheep farm and we converted that sheep farm to the wine estate and it obviously holds a few surprises and challenges but it's incredibly rewarding to convert this kind of unbarren land into a vibrant place and it even up to now still excites me because Obviously, you learn ongoing on a new place like this.

But that cool climate over the last 40 years even slightly became more meaningful with having in the late few years now climate change impacts.

We sort of slightly avoided the same heavy impact that many other wine regions in the world in the moment undergoing.

So we have that ocean who sits pretty much the whole year round at 12 to 14 degrees, who really allows us to grow vineyards at near perfect conditions.

And when we all most probably would agree that the grapes is the most value when it comes to quality, it is therefore really the most critical thing is to find these pockets where grape grows in the best conditions and This Hamelin Arden, in my opinion, is one of these pockets where really you can make incredible good quality

So you have this incredible coastal influence, the big fridge as he described it.

So most probably when you experience South Africa, if not having a huge background into the whole wine industry, you wouldn't expect to find on the southern tip of Africa a sort of cool climate wine region.

And when I came the first time in 2006 to work as an internship at Glencarlu and then later on had the chance to travel a little bit through the to the country to see the different wine regions.

Obviously, I had a chance at that stage to also coming along to the coastlines into the Walker Bay.

So we could just see the first estates in the in the Hamilton who was Hamill Russell and Busch of Finlayson.

So it was very exciting to see that it was out of climatic circumstances, a completely wine world compared to Stellenbosch, Pahl, Franschhock, the places I worked.

And me coming from a more cool climate background in Switzerland, definitely quite hooked into Pinot Noir and wines with acid and freshness.

Now, the other thing, what is also obviously a point of excitement is in wine term context, everything is long term.

And when you really want to establish yourself a project from scratch, you sort of cannot start too late in your life and what really played sort of in our hands was that we had a chance to establish a new estate in relative young age that we still should see a big part of the benefit in our own generation and to go from a blank sheet it does really excite I mean we we really had a sheep farm and we converted that sheep farm to the wine estate and it obviously holds a few surprises and challenges but it's incredibly rewarding to convert this kind of unbarren land into a vibrant place and it even up to now still excites me because Obviously, you learn ongoing on a new place like this.

But that cool climate over the last 40 years even slightly became more meaningful with having in the late few years now climate change impacts.

We sort of slightly avoided the same heavy impact that many other wine regions in the world in the moment undergoing.

So we have that ocean who sits pretty much the whole year round at 12 to 14 degrees, who really allows us to grow vineyards at near perfect conditions.

And when we all most probably would agree that the grapes is the most value when it comes to quality, it is therefore really the most critical thing is to find these pockets where grape grows in the best conditions and This Hamelin Arden, in my opinion, is one of these pockets where really you can make incredible good quality

So you have this incredible coastal influence, the big fridge as he described it.
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