Oct 4, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min · 12 segments
“I think first of all that in order to have disillusion, you need to have illusion and I really want to sort of take a stand in the name of being a delusional person, you know? I do think illusions…
Chiara BarziniGuestMia FunkHostVirginia MoschettiHostI want to say there's a public wing, which this is more talking about being on the precipice of apocalypses and deciding what we have to keep, you know, if there was a cataclysm.
So all these things from the arts, the sciences, all these conversations you had, the different disciplines, how they inspire you and why they're meaningful for you and for us as a civilization.
But I think what I would save, in a sense, is the knowledge, kind of what we were talking about earlier, that right now we are in this together.
You know, the people that we are alive with at the moment, we are in this lifetime together.
And I think, you know, if we could sort of look at each other sometimes as if we're like standing on top of a mountain or standing at the end of the world or whatever final apocalyptic moment we're going through and really, you know, kind of just looked at each other and saw that we really are in it together.
We're doing this together, you know, and underneath all these sort of elaborate structures that we have.
You know, if we don't fixate on distinguishing one from the other, we are incredibly similar.
And I think in terms of philosophy, that's something that comes a lot also from St. Francis of Assisi, who I love so much, who also said, we're in this together and not just us human beings, but us with the stars and the moon and the sun and all of the animals, like we're all in this together.
And I wish that could be the feeling that could stay out of our complex civilization should we get washed away.
Those are very important words to remember this present moment and also see back to the long arc of history that we have made it through, you know, other upheavals.
And thank you, Chiara Barzini, for opening our eyes to the story of water, which is the story of us and showing us the landscapes and dreams that shape us, the illusions that give our life meaning.
I want to say there's a public wing, which this is more talking about being on the precipice of apocalypses and deciding what we have to keep, you know, if there was a cataclysm.
So all these things from the arts, the sciences, all these conversations you had, the different disciplines, how they inspire you and why they're meaningful for you and for us as a civilization.
But I think what I would save, in a sense, is the knowledge, kind of what we were talking about earlier, that right now we are in this together.
You know, the people that we are alive with at the moment, we are in this lifetime together.
And I think, you know, if we could sort of look at each other sometimes as if we're like standing on top of a mountain or standing at the end of the world or whatever final apocalyptic moment we're going through and really, you know, kind of just looked at each other and saw that we really are in it together.
We're doing this together, you know, and underneath all these sort of elaborate structures that we have.
You know, if we don't fixate on distinguishing one from the other, we are incredibly similar.
And I think in terms of philosophy, that's something that comes a lot also from St. Francis of Assisi, who I love so much, who also said, we're in this together and not just us human beings, but us with the stars and the moon and the sun and all of the animals, like we're all in this together.
And I wish that could be the feeling that could stay out of our complex civilization should we get washed away.
Those are very important words to remember this present moment and also see back to the long arc of history that we have made it through, you know, other upheavals.
And thank you, Chiara Barzini, for opening our eyes to the story of water, which is the story of us and showing us the landscapes and dreams that shape us, the illusions that give our life meaning.
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