Facts vs Feelings with Ryan Detrick & Sonu Varghese
Jun 10, 2026 · 53 min · 16 segments
In Episode 191 of Facts vs. Feelings, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group, and Sonu Varghese, Chief Macro Strategist at Carson Group, go live from Chicago with Jeff Kilburg, Founder…
Jim BiancoGuest
Jeff KilburgGuest
Grant EngelbartPanelist
Barry GilbertPanelistCutting through the noise each week, Ryan Detrick, chief market strategist, and Sonu Varghese, chief macro strategist.
Sonu, myself, the entire Carson team were in Chicago, the Windy City, for our second quarter summit with our incredible Carson advisors.
Sonu and I were kicking around the idea of doing, like, a live Facts Versus Feelings while we're in Chicago.
And by the way, Chicago is Sonu's hometown, so he had, um, some inside information on where we should go, what we should do.
We did a live version of Facts Versus Feelings, opened it up to anyone that wanted to come.
Uh, some of our Carson advisors made it, industry friends made it, and just a lot of in- industry people from Chicago came on over.
And our friends over at WisdomTree, by the way, sponsored the whole thing, so shout-out to WisdomTree.
Uh, we were thinking, "Who do we wanna have join us?" And thinking about Chicago, you know, and, um, well, I guess Mike Ditka was not available, so we had to go, uh, Jeff Kilburg over at KKM Financial, uh, also a CNBC contributor, founder at KKM Financial and CIO.
We talked about all the stuff that's happening out there, so many different angles and things we talked about.
So without further ado, here is episode 191, we are inching closer to 200, of Carson's Facts Versus Feelings, live from Swift Tavern in Chicago.
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Cutting through the noise each week, Ryan Detrick, chief market strategist, and Sonu Varghese, chief macro strategist.
Sonu, myself, the entire Carson team were in Chicago, the Windy City, for our second quarter summit with our incredible Carson advisors.
Sonu and I were kicking around the idea of doing, like, a live Facts Versus Feelings while we're in Chicago.
And by the way, Chicago is Sonu's hometown, so he had, um, some inside information on where we should go, what we should do.
We did a live version of Facts Versus Feelings, opened it up to anyone that wanted to come.
Uh, some of our Carson advisors made it, industry friends made it, and just a lot of in- industry people from Chicago came on over.
And our friends over at WisdomTree, by the way, sponsored the whole thing, so shout-out to WisdomTree.
Uh, we were thinking, "Who do we wanna have join us?" And thinking about Chicago, you know, and, um, well, I guess Mike Ditka was not available, so we had to go, uh, Jeff Kilburg over at KKM Financial, uh, also a CNBC contributor, founder at KKM Financial and CIO.
We talked about all the stuff that's happening out there, so many different angles and things we talked about.
So without further ado, here is episode 191, we are inching closer to 200, of Carson's Facts Versus Feelings, live from Swift Tavern in Chicago.