Jul 31, 2026 · 38 min · 10 segments
After 25 years in social work and homeless services, Michele Williams built MS Works Learning — an AI-driven training platform for the human services sector with the potential to reach up to 85,000…
Michele WilliamsGuest
Michelle Muncy-SilvaHostI know you did too, right? And how do you recommend women handle the people who are doubting?

At first, I was like, you know, I remember my dad saying to my mom, I'm still in the room, like, you think she can do this? I was like, I'm still here.

And so, you know, it was kind of like, OK, you know, I I think I can do it.

And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work in the same way we all take on jobs.

And so, like, there's nothing that's different about it except for the decision making.

Like I get to decide what I want to put forth energy into as opposed to having it decided for me.

you know, using all the skills that you've had, that you've put to work, you know, in the employ of other people, to yourself and to your own vision and your dream.

And everything, the other thing that I would tell myself, and I say this to all the time, like, if you look, I'm looking at my desk area in front of me, every single item on this desk, if somebody had an idea and somebody else said it wasn't going to work, but yet...

We're sitting here talking on Zoom, right? It's like, who could have thought of that, right? At some point, even eight years ago, right? Who could have thought about that? But every single item that you pick up every day was somebody's idea, somebody's genius that other people said, oh, that's dumb,
I know you did too, right? And how do you recommend women handle the people who are doubting?

At first, I was like, you know, I remember my dad saying to my mom, I'm still in the room, like, you think she can do this? I was like, I'm still here.

And so, you know, it was kind of like, OK, you know, I I think I can do it.

And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work in the same way we all take on jobs.

And so, like, there's nothing that's different about it except for the decision making.

Like I get to decide what I want to put forth energy into as opposed to having it decided for me.

you know, using all the skills that you've had, that you've put to work, you know, in the employ of other people, to yourself and to your own vision and your dream.

And everything, the other thing that I would tell myself, and I say this to all the time, like, if you look, I'm looking at my desk area in front of me, every single item on this desk, if somebody had an idea and somebody else said it wasn't going to work, but yet...

We're sitting here talking on Zoom, right? It's like, who could have thought of that, right? At some point, even eight years ago, right? Who could have thought about that? But every single item that you pick up every day was somebody's idea, somebody's genius that other people said, oh, that's dumb,
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