Mark KennedyHostMark ScuttHostLiam MooreHostWell, it's interesting, you know, because I would say we've always said actually in plant hire, haulage runs at a loss.
And the reality is if it is running at a loss, which I quite agree, because we're all trying to be competitive and get machines on sites and haulage to a client is another cost.
If the only lorry that you have available to help Liam Moore out, for example, he wants a one and a half tonner, and the only lorry that happens to be available is a low loader, you're adding to the cost of your business in the sense that you're not doing it on a beaver tail, a small beaver tail, or even towing it.
Sometimes it's availability versus client expectation or deadline, and you end up running small machines on big lorries and God knows whatever else.

So do you think we overthink it? Do you think, right, one for Liam maybe, do you think we overthink it? Because I'll just give you a bit of a commercial look at this, right? So I've got my lorry, and I'm not re-ireing lorries in.

That's a different argument altogether, because whatever you re-ire in, you probably want to recover

Does that matter? It's still going to do that if it's empty or not, right? So I'm just being controversial really for the sake of it.

So anything really I'm not paying on a day-to-day, insurance and everything else I'm paying.

So do you think we overthink it? Because if you look at it that way, You either are trying to recover for every move because you think it costs you three, four – I've heard people do this.

Or is it the fact that it's a fixed cost anyway to your business and all you're really recovering is that fuel? So do you think we're overthinking it? Have you looked at it that way? So now I'm only going 10 miles.
Well, it's interesting, you know, because I would say we've always said actually in plant hire, haulage runs at a loss.
And the reality is if it is running at a loss, which I quite agree, because we're all trying to be competitive and get machines on sites and haulage to a client is another cost.
If the only lorry that you have available to help Liam Moore out, for example, he wants a one and a half tonner, and the only lorry that happens to be available is a low loader, you're adding to the cost of your business in the sense that you're not doing it on a beaver tail, a small beaver tail, or even towing it.
Sometimes it's availability versus client expectation or deadline, and you end up running small machines on big lorries and God knows whatever else.

So do you think we overthink it? Do you think, right, one for Liam maybe, do you think we overthink it? Because I'll just give you a bit of a commercial look at this, right? So I've got my lorry, and I'm not re-ireing lorries in.

That's a different argument altogether, because whatever you re-ire in, you probably want to recover

Does that matter? It's still going to do that if it's empty or not, right? So I'm just being controversial really for the sake of it.

So anything really I'm not paying on a day-to-day, insurance and everything else I'm paying.

So do you think we overthink it? Because if you look at it that way, You either are trying to recover for every move because you think it costs you three, four – I've heard people do this.

Or is it the fact that it's a fixed cost anyway to your business and all you're really recovering is that fuel? So do you think we're overthinking it? Have you looked at it that way? So now I'm only going 10 miles.
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